I think your negative margins are getting the better of you. Because both
elements directly follow each other there shouldn't be any need to do
anything othet than set H# bottom and UL/LI top margins and padding to 0.

The change below worked for me.


.mainleft ul {
        margin-top: 0px;


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On Behalf Of kvnmcwebn
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 3:32 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] narrowing the gap between h3 and ul-help


hello all,

 just tryin to narrow the distance between my h3 element and some unordered
lists.
easy enough in ff but negative margins dont seem to budge the ul in ie.

example html

http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/final5.htm


css
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/index3.css

http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/nav.css


-best
kvncwebn


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