Best learning book I have ever seen or owned on CSS was CSS the Missing Manual by David Sawyer McFarland published by Pogue Press / O'Reilly. The book is a great book for beginners especially as it walks you through many of the real world problems. The thing is it does cover a lot of the "Hacks" including the box model hack from IE5
Kevin J. Lennon Lake Area Webs http://www.lakeareawebs.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Powell Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 11:27 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Teaching CSS Importance: High Hi I agree with all the comments made so far. The book(s) that helped me the most get my head around CSS and it's applied techniques were: Web Standards Solutions: Dan Cederholm CSS Mastery, Advanced Web Standard Solutions: Andy Budd Designing With Web Standards: Jeffrey Zeldman (new version just came off the press) Although the Zeldman book isn't a pure CSS guide it helps anyone understand the fundamentals of why they work with CSS instead of old FONT tags. Hope this helps. Lee On 17 Mar 2007, at 05:47, Cole Kuryakin wrote: Hello All - My background for the past 27 years has been in design. 6 years ago I realized the (financial) necessity to begin learning web design. 3 years after that came the next leap into HTML/PHP/CSS. So far, so good - well, most of the time anyway. I've always been a one-man-band, but now I'm finding myself much busier than I can handle by myself so I've had to take on another designer who, while quite good at his art, has never really been fully and satisfactorily exposed to the fundamentals of CSS. So, I've got to teach him. And that's the problem. While my knowledge of CSS has gotten me through each project, and each sheet validates, I still consider myself a "learner" as I've never had much time to really, really, really "understand" the box model and other fundamentals that, lord knows, I SHOULD understand completely by now. I've learned what I know just via various internet sites and through the help and guidance of wonderful groups like the WSG. So, I'm at a crossroads. how can I teach something that I don't feel 100% competent in? But the clock is ticking; clients are waiting, and my freelance artist is calling asking "humm, this is breaking. how should I fix it?" To which I respond . "Ah, humm. let me get back to you on that" - and a new email flies out to the good folks in this great group for help. With that lengthy pre-amble, I've got to ask - is there a GREAT book out there that steps through the learning process of CSS right from the bare bones that both I and my new artist can use? Not theoretical stuff, but hand-on, simply-put, illustrative? There are a lot of books out there I know, but I need a great one, that's very specific about explaining all the fundamentals of the box model all the way up. I want to complexly stay away from books that promote or talk about css hacks however (I've been using conditional comments and IE specific sheets to deal with these problems with 100% success). A number of SitePoint books on CSS seem pretty good - based upon their sample-chapters download - but before I spend US$40 on one, has anyone here used them? Besides a book, are there any on-line, step-by-step "foundation to penthouse" curriculum course that anyone knows about and TRUSTS by experience? Thanks to all for weighing through this windy post; and advance appreciation to all who care to comment. Cole ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************