In most cases, positioning the element off left of screen is a much better approach than display:none. Accessibility does not mean that all css is ignored, and in this case, display:none will probably be adhered to by a screenreader.
If you can absolutely position an element, set it's "left" property to be a negative "em" value, e.g: .hideLeft { position:absolute; left:-999em; ... } Alternatively, sometimes a text-indent will also work (especially if your absolute element is inside another absolute/relative element) .hideLeft { text-indent:-999em; ... } Karl On 10/30/07, James Jeffery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Toney i was speaking in general, i didn't realize he was talking about > hiding keywords from visual view but so spiders see them. > > I though he was on about "Would hiding elements, such as replacing > navigation text with images, effect search engine spiders and would > the see the navigation text". > > I am fully aware SEO abuse, i didn't know he was referencing to that, > my mistake. > > James > > > On 10/29/07, Dave Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It depends what you're using it for. If it's for black hat search > > engine tactics which will contain keywords then yes it's bad as it can > > get you completely banned from Google. > > > > If it's for hiding an element of the page which you'll then be > > displaying using either CSS or JavaScript then it's not neccesarily > > bad for search engines but can be bad for accessibility as screen > > readers will ignore it so you'd be better off using negative text > > indent or negative absolute positioning. > > > > It depends on what situation you're using it for but yes it can be bad > > if used wrongly. > > > > Thanks > > Dave > > > > - - - - - - - - - - > > http://www.dave-woods.co.uk > > > > > > On 29/10/2007, James Jeffery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I highly doubt that presentational styles will effect SEO. > > > > > > When you use display:none you are not removing the > > > content from the source, you are just hiding it from > > > users viewing the web page. > > > > > > If you was to remove the element from the source using > > > DOM that would be different. > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > On 10/29/07, Tony Crockford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 29 Oct 2007, at 15:46, Simon Cockayne wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I am sure I read that CSS's display: none has a detrimental on SEO. > > > > > > > > > > Is this true* or did I dream it? > > > > > > > > > > *To clarify...I am keen to know if it is true that there is a > > > > > detrimental impact...not whether it is true that I read it or not. > > > > > > > > Google specifically caution against hiding text with CSS: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66353 > > > > > > > > is that what you meant? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > List Guidelines: > > > http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > > > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > List Guidelines: > > > http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > > Unsubscribe: > > > http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > List Guidelines: > http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > Unsubscribe: > http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: > http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: > http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************