Betsie does a lot more than just display the page without styles. It was designed to improve the accessibility of the crappy websites that were the norm a decade ago, and it is less useful on a website that is coded properly but it still has some value. The technical spec is at http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/betsie/tech.html You can do a lot of what Betsie does using CSS but the one thing you can't do is replace the images with their 'alt' attributes. Steve
_____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom ('Mas) Pickering Sent: 20 November 2008 20:20 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Text-only version Rob - What I would interpret that to mean is that, by clicking on the link in the footer, the visitor will be presented the content either without any graphics or without any graphics or CSS. If it were merely a matter of the CSS being removed, that shouldn't be a billable item. However, if all graphics are removed from the page, then you would have a different version of the page and that would be billable, though it would likely involve less time to modify the original template to have a text-only version. In either case, I would seek detailed clarification of that line item from their estimate. At 01:53 PM 11/20/2008, you wrote: Dear list, I'm involved in a CMS-based website project where the supplier has provided me with a breakdown of costs - before I sign it off. One of the items highlighted in the breakdown is a footer-accessed link for a text-only version. The supplier claims it's the same technology used/developed by the BBC - called Betsie. Do you think it's a service I should be paying for? Although not expensive, I'm wondering why the 'functionality' needs to be highlighted at all? Surely, it's the same as saying we'll charge you separately for css or html markup? Thoughts... Thanks, -- Rob // Rob Enslin // twitter.com/robenslin // +44 (0)759 052 8890 ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* Tom ('Mas) Pickering - Web Developer & Patti Gray - Web Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] PourHouse Productions - http://pourhouse.com/ When He Reigns - It Pours <)>< ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
