Just to add to this, you can monitor Senator Conroy via email updates and 
message him through the Getup wesbite.
http://www.projectdemocracy.com/senator/senator.php?senatorid=15



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jelina Korhecz
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 12:50 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Fw: The Great Firewall of Australia

I agree with Dave--a letter to Senator Conroy is the best approach.
The website previously mentioned (http://nocleanfeed.com/) is also a good place 
to start if you want to take action.

I'm extremely concerned about this plan (and have been since I heard about it a 
months ago) because at first it seemed like everyone in a position of power 
thought it was a good idea... despite the fact that their filtering trials 
clearly showed that a mandatory filter wasn't feasible with the technology 
currently available.

Luckily (and I apologise if this has already been mentioned in a previous 
email), iiNet--an Australian ISP--has signed up to the live testing that is due 
to begin mid-December.  They have said that they will take part in this test to 
demonstrate to the government how ineffective an ISP level filter is at the 
present time.  You can check out what they have to say about it on their 
website:
http://www.iinet.net.au/about/news/internet_filtering.html

Unfortunately, iiNet have received bad press lately because of a lawsuit 
brought upon them by the AFACT (Australian Federation Against Copyright 
Theft--see http://www.lawfont.com/2008/11/21/the-case-against-iinet/ for more 
info).  However, some are saying that this case and iiNet's position on the 
mandatory filtering scheme are connected (which is why the AFACT went after 
iiNet and not a larger ISP like Telstra Bigpond), but I'll let you make your 
own mind up about the link between the two.
(See http://defendingscoundrels.com/2008/11/iinet-lawsuit-no-coincidence.html
for more.)

Don't get me wrong--anything that can stop something that is as horrible as 
child porn I support.  But I honestly do not think this has any chance of 
working.  Please do what you can to help stop this filter going ahead.  
Otherwise I might need to move countries  :(

My 2c  :)


On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:42 PM, IceKat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wouldn't have sent this to the group if I'd had even the slightest
> idea it was spam. Getup.org.au is a genuinely good site.
>
> IceKat.
>
>
>
> Brett Patterson wrote:
>>
>> 1) That, I do believe is a crock of shit!
>> 2) If he does anything like that, he will be dead!!!
>>
>> --and--
>>
>> 3) Anyone who believes in those ideas are fucked up, stupid, and this
>> I can promise, will NOT make it in this world, dead or alive!!!!!
>> 4) Like I said, I think this a crock of shit, and possibly spam.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:56 PM, IceKat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
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>>    Hi,
>>
>>    Usually I'm suspicious of this stuff but I happen to know that Get
>>    Up is legit and thought the Aussie members of this list might like
>>    to know about this.
>>
>>    IceKat.
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>>    Thought you might be interested
>>        Love Mum
>>            ----- Original Message -----
>>    <http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet?dc=564,324731,1>
>>
>>    Dear Helen,
>>
>>    Imagine a government proposing an internet censorship system that
>>    went further than any other democracy - one that made the internet
>>    up to 87% slower, more expensive, accidentally blocked up to one
>>    in 12 legitimate sites, and missed the vast majority of
>>    inappropriate content.
>>
>>    This is not China, Saudi Arabia or Iran - this is the vision of
>>    Senator Stephen Conroy for Australia. *Testing has already begun.*
>>    The community must now move to stop this plan. *Click here to save
>>    the net:*
>>
>>    *www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet*
>>    <http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet?dc=564,324731,1>
>>
>>    The system that Senator Conroy wants is *a mandatory filter of all
>>    internet traffic*, with the government of the day able to add any
>>    unwanted site to a secret blacklist. Already, the wrangling has
>>    begun for the inclusion of material relating to anorexia,
>>    euthanasia and gambling. It isn't difficult to see *the scheme is
>>    open to abuse*.
>>
>>    Even when it comes to preventing child p-rnography, the filter
>>    will not prevent peer-to-peer sharing and is very simple to
>>    sidestep. *The protection of our children is vitally important* -
>>    that's why we can't afford to waste funds on this deeply flawed
>>    system. We should be concentrating on solutions that are more
>>    effective and won't undermine our digital economy or our
>>    democratic freedoms.
>>
>>    This must rank as one of the most ill-thought decisions of the
>>    Rudd Government's first year in power. We need to act now to *tell
>>    big brother the mandatory internet filter is incompatible with the
>>    principles of a modern democracy and modern economy*:
>>
>>    *www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet*
>>    <http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet?dc=564,324731,1>
>>
>>    Our government should be doing all in its power to take Australia
>>    into the 21st century economy, and to protect our children. *This
>>    proposed internet censorship does neither.* Take action to save
>>    the net today.
>>
>>    Thanks for being a part of the solution,
>>    The GetUp team
>>
>>    PS - The proposed scheme will pass all internet traffic through a
>>    government filter - it's like asking Australia Post to filter
>>    every letter sent in Australia. *Click here to save the net.*
>>    <http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet?dc=564,324731,1>
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