Given the increased number of threats and the availability of slick script blocker extensions for Firefox like NoScript (http://noscript.net/) it's only going to get more common, particularly among security conscious people. I certainly use it, only enabling Javascript for a site I'm visiting when I can see what benefit it has to me.
Cheers, Dave On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 07:33 +1100, Jessica Enders wrote: > Hi Pascal > > In the JavaScript/Accessibility/form validation discussion you > mention "the growing number of users who purposefully disable > JavaScript". I'm always curious just how many people this is. > > Do you, or does anyone else, have any statistics on this? Is there a > reason you describe it as a "growing number"? > > Any information greatly appreciated. > > Cheers > > Jessica Enders > Principal > Formulate Information Design > ---------------------------------------- > http://formulate.com.au > ---------------------------------------- > Phone: (02) 6116 8765 > Fax: (02) 8456 5916 > PO Box 5108 > Braddon ACT 2612 > ---------------------------------------- > > On 19/01/2009, at 11:14 PM, Simon Pascal Klein wrote: > > > If there were further communication between the user and server > > between submission of the form that would entail a page reload then > > a screen user shouldn’t have an issue, whereas if JavaScript would > > run in the background and inject errors or suggestions as it thinks > > the user makes them (e.g. password complexity recommendations, > > username not available messages) numerous accessibility issues arise. > > > > The only solution that came to mind was having a generic message > > (such as ‘please fill out all marked (*) fields’ or the like) that > > could be hidden using CSS and through JavaScript ‘unhidden’ when an > > error appears (though it could only be a generic error). As dandy > > as these automatic feedback and error messages are through > > JavaScript maybe a full submission and subsequent page reload is > > best—after all it’s impossible to tell those users using an > > accessibility aid like a screen reader from those who do not, and > > hey, the growing number of users who purposefully disable > > JavaScript won’t see the glitzy JavaScript injected errors anyway. > > > > Just my 0.2¢. > > > > > > On 19/01/2009, at 5:52 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote: > > > >>> Isn't 'aria-required' a non-standard attribute? > >> > >> Sadly, yes. But there is some hope: it is possible that ARIA will be > >> accepted in HTML5 and there is an initiative to provide validation > >> for > >> (X)HTML+ARIA: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/ > >> 2008Sep/0381.html > >> > >> Validator.nu already has experimental support for HTML5+ARIA, and I > >> believe (did not check) http://qa-dev.w3.org/wmvs/HEAD/ provides the > >> same for document type "HTML5". > >> > >> There is also a possibility to add ARIA attributes with Javascript. > >> All the options are controversial, but that's how it is for now :( > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rimantas > >> -- > >> http://rimantas.com/ > >> > >> > >> ******************************************************************* > >> List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > >> Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > >> Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > >> ******************************************************************* > >> > > > > --- > > Simon Pascal Klein > > Concept designer > > > > (w) http://klepas.org > > (e) kle...@klepas.org > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > > ******************************************************************* > > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > ******************************************************************* > -- David Lane = Egressive Ltd = d...@egressive.com = m:+64 21 229 8147 p:+64 3 963 3733 = Linux: it just tastes better = nosoftwarepatents http://egressive.com ==== we only use open standards: http://w3.org Effusion Group Founding Member =========== http://effusiongroup.com ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *******************************************************************
