I've been always under the impression that sighted users surfing with a keyboard, have it easier to realize if there's a Skip Navigation link (since nothing gets on focus) and it's easier for them to navigate with tab key, so it's not such a burden.
I mean, suffering the navigation on a screen reader on every page is painful, but a sighted user can work himself better on the page with a keyboard. That's why I always put a div with the "skip to" links on top of the document and then move them to the left off the site. Keyboards find them first (though they don't show) and screen readers see them. It's better not to make Skip to navigation visible, since most users won't understand what's that for, and on many cases, they won't even realize what's happening, since the page won't change if you click on it. Anyway, my 2c ;) Cheers Raul www.raulferrer.com <http://www.raulferrer.com/> webdesign & development _____ De: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] En nombre de Steve Green Enviado el: jueves, 29 de octubre de 2009 2:17 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Asunto: RE: [WSG] skip links Understood. I was addressing the common misconception that skip links are only for screen reader users. Bob may have had a reason for phrasing the question the way he did, but it probably should have been phrased differently. _____ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Mark Huppert Sent: 29 October 2009 00:19 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] skip links Thanks for that Steve - but I was trying answer the question: "Can anyone point me to the best way of providing a 'skip nav' procedure which is invisible to sighted readers " regards Mark _____ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Steve Green Sent: Thursday, 29 October 2009 11:01 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] skip links A 1-pixel image works for screen reader users but it is no use for sighted people who use keyboard navigation. _____ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Mark Huppert Sent: 28 October 2009 23:37 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] skip links spot the typo .... regards Mark _____ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Mark Huppert Sent: Thursday, 29 October 2009 10:34 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] skip links Steve One way to do it is make a transparent gif of 1px x 1px. Then embed that in your link with no text. Have an ALT or a TITLE with 'skip navigation' <a href="#top" ><img title="Skip navigation" alt="Skip navigation" src="/screens/dot/gif" /></a> regards Mark ======================================== Mark Huppert Library Systems and Web Coordinator Division of Information R.G. Menzies Building (#2) The Australian National University ACTON ACT 0200 T: +61 02 6125 2752 F: +61 02 6125 4063 W: http://anulib.anu.edu.au/about/ CRICOS Provider #00120C ======================================== _____ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Steve Green Sent: Thursday, 29 October 2009 12:52 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] skip links I always point people to http://blackwidows.co.uk/. The links are accessible to screen readers and are displayed when they have focus so they are accessible to sighted users who use keyboard navigation. _____ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of designer Sent: 28 October 2009 13:37 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] skip links Can anyone point me to the best way of providing a 'skip nav' procedure which is invisible to sighted readers but is picked up by screen readers? It seems a can of worms - I've searched and read about it, but (of course) it is impossible to find out which way is recommended by real world web designers who have actually used a bullet-proof approach. I'd be really grateful . . . 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