we have a new super-hero in our midst, keeping the city safe from people with disabilities and their nonsense. You'll see him in a costume pushing in front of disabled people trying to get on a bus and yelling his catch phrase 'tough luck' as the the door closes. Thanks No Nonsense Man!

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Chris Knowles


On 26/08/11 3:15 PM, Jay Tanna wrote:
Personally I don't go out of my way to do anything special.  I design the site 
as it comes and if some people can't access it - tough luck.  There is no point 
in spending any additional time or money in buying specialist tools for people 
who are challenged in some form!  Some people on certain forums call me dragon 
because of my no nonsense views and I don't normally let them down!.



--- On Thu, 18/8/11, Mike Kear<w...@afpwebworks.com>  wrote:


How to the rest of you a/b people
(i.e. able bodied) cater to users with
various forms of disability?
Up until recently, I've tended to rely on keeping my code
to standards,
eliminating tables except for their proper purpose of
tabulating data, and
hoping that will give the accessibility level
required.  Do you go to the
step of accessing your sites with JAWS or something similar
to see how the
site works for users with screen readers?

I remember in the 1990s when I was working at Australian
Consumers
Association  (choice.com.au) we had someone come and
bring his PC with JAWS.
The web team all sat in the boardroom getting ever more
glum looks on our
faces as we saw to our horror how terrible our new design
was for this poor
guy.  We thought we'd got a terrific new design, and
were about to launch
it, when he did this demo for us.   We had
to go back and recode everything.
This was before anyone was talking about standards though -
it was back when
the normally accepted method of laying out pages was to use
tables, and
buttons were nearly always images.  I remember being
astounded at how fast
he was moving around the page, even though we'd unwittingly
designed an
obstacle course of humungous proportions for him.

Our anguish at the time resulted in a far better web site,
and convinced me
to pay attention to standards and accessibility ever
since.
But now I'm wondering if simply sticking to standards is
enough?

What do you all think?  Do you include JAWS in your
site testing?




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