Thanks,

I love the more graphical layout and organization putting critical
issues on top.

The checker told me a number of very useful things like my page size
is too large,  not to use event handlers.... I went and found a
wai-aria model that I think will work instead..

I have been moving image sizing to the style sheet and not left inline..

Take care,

Nancy Johnson


On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Phil Archer <ph...@w3.org> wrote:
>
> On 12/12/2011 17:28, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
>>
>> On 12/12/2011 17:18, Nancy Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>> I noticed this validator only checks for xhtml 1.1 basic or mp1.2. Is
>>> it going to checking again html5? http://validator.w3.org/mobile/
>>
>>
>> Not to my knowledge, no. You could argue that it's aimed at older
>> generations of phones/browsers.
>
>
> We (W3C) have been discussing this issue. The mobile checker is an
> implementation of the mobileOK Basic Tests [1] which is the machine testable
> subset of the Mobile Web Best Practices [2]. As long as that is true we
> have:
>
> - a checker rooted firmly in a specification - which is a good thing;
> - a checker that is growing old and, as is obvious, increasingly out of date
> - which is a bad thing.
>
> If we were to update the checker to, for example, cover HTML5 or any other
> technology (CSS3, SVG or whatever) then how would we root that in a spec? It
> becomes a dynamic system without a reference point.
>
> Now - since a lot of work went in to the checker (and the specs behind it)
> and it's a potentially useful tool, we don't want to lose it. However, we
> would need some sort of community effort to determine what the checker would
> check. There's also an issue of cost - maintaining the validation suite
> means writing new code.
>
> For now, I think we can say that the mobileOK checker is a useful guide. A
> lot of the best practices are still entirely valid. Taken with the Mobile
> Web Applications Best Practices [3] they form good advice to any mobile
> developer. However, it does need some interpretation - which is a pity.
>
> For example, the checker will warn you if you don't use the
> application/xhtml+xml MIME type. If you're coding in HTML5 that's simply
> wrong and I haven't seen an instance where there's an advantage in using the
> XHTML MIME type.
>
> The checker will scream at you if you don't include cache control or image
> dimensions - those are very much right!
>
>
>
>>
>>> What about media queries... Is the mobile checker suitable for if
>>> you are creating one set of htmls code and for mulitple devices?
>>
>>
>> No.
>
>
> I'd say not yet.  What we need is the mechanism for how to manage change and
> how to effect change in the checker. Keep nagging us - that might help us
> get it higher on the agenda.
>
> HTH
>
> Phil.
>
>>
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobileOK-basic10-tests/
> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/
> [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/mwabp/
>
>
> --
>
> Phil Archer
> W3C eGovernment
> http://www.w3.org/egov/
>
> http://philarcher.org
> @philarcher1
>
>
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