I'd say the main problem is that it would be a change in the behavior of
JTAlert Macros.
Previously you got visual confirmation that the macro was inserted and
queued up for transmit with the button enabled.
Now you're saying you would set the message...but not enable the radio
button and JTAlert would have to add a timer to check for Rx while the user
may change their mind and click something else...etc......so at best the
user will think it's not queued and click it themselves...and there will be
a flurry of messages on the JTAlert email list to bring it back to the way
it was.  At worse other actions may cause all sorts of havoc in logic.

73
Mike W9MDB


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Somerville [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 8:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Free Text UDP message

On 31/05/2015 14:27, Michael Black wrote:
Hi Mike,
> Laurie's desire was that a macro request would "queue" up...just like 
> it used to do -- right now it either just updates the message without 
> the button or transmits immediate.
> True...operator can always do what they want but minimizing clicks is 
> always a nice thing for what  sounds like the common case.  Never 
> neard anybody on the JTAlert email list complain about the radio button
being enabled.
> A tri-state would let the other application allow the user to choose 
> their desired action.
>
> Or...just adding the active tab  to the status would allow something 
> similar....
I understand the desire but I still feel that is is not worth the extra
complexity of exposing the differences between tab 1 & tab 2. What is the
problem with JTAlert queuing the send free text message internally.

The equivalent effect can be demonstrated in message_aggregator by typing
into the free text box but delaying the pressing of return until the WSJT-X
status returns to Rx. Obviously the delay would be done by the server, but
it has all the desired information to do it, i.e. wait until the status
broadcast indicates Rx mode.
>
> 73
> Mike W9MDB
73
Bill
G4WJS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Somerville [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 8:19 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Free Text UDP message
>
> On 31/05/2015 14:12, Michael Black wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>> Laurie says thanks for the recent change on the free text message.
>>
>> But.would still like be able to enable the radio button on tab 1.
> My thinking was to try and keep it simple by hiding the differences 
> between tab 1 & tab 2. It seems to me that setting of the radio button 
> on tab 1 for the free text message can be easily achieved by waiting 
> until the next Rx period starts and then sending the send ASAP message.
> This is why I talked about visual feedback i.e. the free text message 
> can be seen to be changed immediately and the server can choose when 
> to activate it i.e. now or later.
>> I wonder if the Send flag should be tri-state?
>> Send=0 -- update text only
>> Send=1 -- update text and "ready" button -- i.e. Tab 1 -- Tab 2 
>> ignores
>> Send=2 -- update text and transmit immediate -- so both Tab 1 & Tab 2 
>> would transmit immediate
>>
>> Also...perhaps an added item to the status to show the active tab 
>> would be nice.  So, for example, tab 3 & 4 one could disable macros 
>> for example if they are not appropriate.
>>
>> 73
>> Mike W9MDB
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.


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