Hi Bill,

What about MIPS?

MIPS is the CPU in most ADSL routers and we all reload them with
OpenWRT.

Some heve one or two USB ports om which one can put a USB disk, or
just use NFS.

But, is it worth it with a Banana Pi clone such as the Orange Pi
being so cheap, and has a SATA port!!

1B3GT           (like 73 but cheaper)

Alan VK2ZIW

On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 23:23:01 +0000, Bill Somerville wrote
> On 04/11/2015 22:54, KI7MT wrote:
> > Hi Bill,
> Hi Greg,
> >
> > Ok, thanks for the info.
> >
> > Now, to convolute this whole picture a bit more. Sean told me he's
> > running Ubuntu-Mate on a G5 iMac. From my understanding, the G5 iMac is
> > a ppc 32-bit box, and the Ubuntu kernel ( don't ask me how this works,
> > as I've no idea ) is 64-bit smp ( uname -r = 4.2.0-16-powerpc64-smp ).
> Linux certainly run on PPC and like Windows it supports 32-bit 
> applications with a 64-bit kernel (and vice versa I believe).
> >
> > Question is, will WSJT-X support this combination, 32-bit packaging with
> > a 64-bit Kernel ? I would think yes, as long as the packages are
> > available through the repository ( in this case 32-bit Ubuntu ppc ) and
> > / or there is nothing funky with the WSJT-X code that wont work with ppc
> > (32-bit). This is way outside my WheelHouse for sure.
> The first question will be are Qt 5 and FFTW3 supported which I 
> believe is so, if they are then there is a fair chance that WSJT-X 
> can be built and run. If he is actually trying to get WSJT-X running 
> on that hardware then I am happy to help out.
> >
> > I can say, nothing in the JTSDK-Nix base package requires any ARCH
> > specific packaging that is not available for ppc (32-bit) or ppc64el,
> > mainly, bash, autotools and dialog. I'm not sure bout Python packages,
> > but Sean was able to get WSPR running so that must be OK as is.
> There will probably have to be a couple CMake script enhancements 
> for WSJT-X building on Linux/ppc.
> > The other unknown is, what about the KVASD binary for PPC? If this is a
> > non-starter, would this not limit the availability to WSJT-X v1.6.1
> > where the new Non-KVASD decoder is / has been implemented. I can't
> > recall if this is been added to the v1.6.0 branch or not.
> A KVASD build could be made for Linux PPC if an account on a 
> suitable build machine were made available to Joe, obviously that 
> would not necessarily happen fast given Joe's many commitments. The 
> move to eliminate KVASD is still in progress and as far as WSJT-X is 
> concerned is only in wsjtx_exp and not yet complete although there 
> is not much left to do (mainly eliminating it from the build and 
> packaging).
> 
> I wonder how many OMs have an old G4 or G5 PPC under the bench that 
> could be revived with Linux/ppc for shack usage. It's been a few 
> years since I worked with them, I always remember the rush of air 
> around my feet in the Morning when they had crashed overnight (they 
> fail safe at full fan speed).
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > 73's
> > Greg, KI7MT
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> >
> > On 11/04/2015 08:08 PM, Bill Somerville wrote:
> >> On 04/11/2015 18:46, KI7MT wrote:
> >>> To be honest, I'm a bit fuzzy on the -fPIC v.s.
> >>> -fPIE flag usage.
> >> Hi Greg,
> >>
> >> PIC code is required if the relocatable object code is to be linked into
> >> a shared library. This is necessary so that the image loader can map the
> >> library into more than one process address space without wasting large
> >> amounts of address space (which would be the case if it had to be mapped
> >> at the same address in every process that needed it).
> >>
> >> PIE executables are executables that contain only PIC code and therefore
> >> can be loaded at any address. This is not normally required since
> >> executables are normally loaded at he same address. PIE executables can
> >> be used in a form of security hardening when load addresses are randomized.
> >>
> >> The gcc compiler suite recognizes -fPIC and -fpic (also -fPIE and
> >> -fpie), the lower case forms are more efficient on some processors but
> >> the differences are not very significant.
> >>
> >> Richard KF5OIM recently reported that WSJT-X code that is not used in a
> >> shared library had to be compiled as PIC, this make no sense to me but
> >> it is possible that recent versions of gcc have changed the meaning or
> >> requirements for PIC code. He was using a recent Fedora (FC23) which
> >> uses gcc v5. Having said that I have built Hamlib 3 and WSJT-X on FC23,
> >> which is now released, without having to change any compiler flags. So I
> >> am not yet sure what is going on.
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Bill
> >> G4WJS.
> 
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