Oh...you mean the whole idea of RRR...not the logging prompt.
Others know better...but I think the impetus came from EME where it's already
long enough to get one QSO down. Why send anything more than what is
absolutely essential?
So we have 3 groups.
EME -- really long QSOsHF -- EME without all the repeated attempts
typically..so yeah...you could add another 2 minutes per QSO I suppose...some
do....Fast mode -- zippity-do-dah with repeats.
We should do our best to accommodate all. If "protocol" wants to change
depending on mode it should be put in the manual. But then you have the EME/HF
guys who have to change habits from one to the other if you add another 73 to
HF.
de Mike W9MDB
From: Seb <[email protected]>
To: WSJT software development <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Prompt to log QSO when either RRR or 73 is sent
Mike if the intent was not to shorten the time for a QSO, then what was the
purpose?
Once again, see my example if I’m sending Tx3 and waiting for Tx4. The station
I’m working sends Tx4 once, and logs the contact because typically when we see
a popup, it generally means to do something. I might not hear his single
transmission of Tx4, whether it is on meteor scatter, EME or HF.
73 de Sebastian, W4AS
On Jan 1, 2017, at 5:15 PM, Black Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
It doesn't shorten the time for a QSO. You must be referring to the idea that
RRR is the last message for the CQ side. Seems the fast mode people still send
a 73 which isn't surprising. But the EME people and HF want the RRR to be last.
Can't argue with it being an option, can you? Should make everybody happy.
de Mike W9MDB
From: Jay Hainline <[email protected]>
To: 'Black Michael' <[email protected]>; 'WSJT software development'
<[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 4:08 PM
Subject: RE: [wsjt-devel] Prompt to log QSO when either RRR or 73 is sent
I don’t know for certain why this was changed in the first place except the
JT65 HF crowd is always looking for a way to sidestep a sequence to shorten the
time for a QSO. This does not work in the meteor scatter VHF world where you
are relying on random data bits to fly in on a meteor for less than 1 second
and you are trying to decode just what the guy on the other end has received.
If it aint broke, don’t fix it. I hope I don’t get black balled for being
negative like the Ham Radio Deluxe people do to users of their software. Lol
;-) 73 Jay KA9CFD From: Black Michael [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 3:39 PM
To: WSJT software development <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Prompt to log QSO when either RRR or 73 is sent I
think the consensus solution would be to make it a user option.Seems the meteor
scatter people have the most problems with it since they were quick to speak
up. I had proposed at one time to make the "Prompt me to log QSO" a tri-state
box so one could check 73, 73+RRR, or none. But seems the binary choice is
clearer and there are no other tri-state checkboxes in WSJT-X. So this patch
makes it optional with an added option line below the current prompt option.
All worlds should be happy with this.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s5xwpc39bubmzxx/rrr_option.patch?dl=1
de Mike W9MDB From: Seb <[email protected]>
To: WSJT software development <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Prompt to log QSO when either RRR or 73 is sent IMHO
the introduction of the log QSO prompt when you are sending RRR does not solve
or help anything. It is useless when you are doing meteor scatter. If I’m
sending Tx3 and the other station hears that and sends Tx4 and then logs the
contact, it is not a valid QSO because I have no idea if the other station has
heard my report. I will end up sending Tx3 several times until I just give up
on the contact. 73 de Sebastian, W4AS
On Jan 1, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Jay Hainline <[email protected]> wrote:
This was introduced in r7431. I think its bad form to get a prompt to log the
QSO when you are sending RRR. How do you know if your QSO partner has received
it if he does not send 73 back to you?? Jay Hainline KA9CFDColchester, IL
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