>From my viewpoint, all these Digital Modes are Channelized operation, much 
>like Repeaters, except it takes longer to recognize a signal.

You don't just tune the band looking for FT8 or FT4 signals. Given the time
constraints needed to decode precludes that.

This brings back memories of the beginnings of Repeater operation. For a while
it was the "Wild West", until the FCC stepped in and "suggested" we clean up
our act before they did.
That may not happen today, given the Federal Budget constraints, so it will be
interesting to see how this develops.

Also, the proliferation of Digital Modes (just look at the drop down table in
HRD's DM-780 program) makes the Tower of Babel look calm !!

In the meantime, I'll just get a bigger Amp !!

HI HI

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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From: Bill Somerville <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 8:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 Frequencies

On 28/04/2019 16:07, Richard Solomon wrote:
Since roll-out is imminent, have we an agreement on which
frequencies to use ?

73, Dick, W1KSZ

Hi Dick,

not yet. There are many claims on the frequencies we have proposed, a few with 
suggested alternatives but mostly just asking us to go elsewhere. Getting to an 
acceptable set of suggested frequencies for FT4 even for occasional contest 
periods is difficult and it is made even harder if we assume, not unreasonably, 
that FT4 may be used for general DXing as well.

One option is not to recommend any frequencies and let the community sort it 
out, then add the resulting frequencies to the default recommendations later 
as/if they converge. Unfortunately I don't think that will achieve the 
desirable global coordination, nor is it likely to converge on the best 
choices. The only good attribute would be that the developers can say "we 
didn't choose that frequency, don't blame us for QRM" which is a bit of a cop 
out, and we will still be blamed anyway.

Another option is to sacrifice the JT9 slots in favour of FT4. Clearly that is 
not straightforward given that JS8CALL has made a claim on that bandwidth too. 
Personally I would love to see JT9 get more use, it is a great mode for HF and 
I miss working the world with a few mW on the HF bands.

Given the lack of truly free globally available slots in the narrow band 
digital mode band plans, I suspect that no more than one 2 kHz slot per band 
for FT4 should be an aim. By that I mean that if there is a contest using FT4 
then it should use those frequencies and non-contest participants should defer. 
This is based on the premiss that FT4 has been designed with contests in mind. 
This would need somewhat smarter logic in WSJT-X to try and avoid chaos when 
non-contest participants inadvertently get involved in contest QSOs. Of course 
each contest's organizers can elect to suggest different slots which may be 
acceptable if the traffic volumes are low enough.

Suggestions are still welcome, nothing is set in stone just yet.

73
Bill
G4WJS.
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