Thank you Dave !

Well, . I live remote from any local noice - If I tune right outside the FT8 
frequency I have nothing at all on my S meter .
I can have a SSB QSO with stations not even lifting my S meter at all.  The 
IC-7851 have a grate receiver

But what it might be - is that - like just now on 20M - I have some Spanish 
stations peeking my S meter to 9+30dB
And the station list is giving them +20 on the dB indication
Right now - more than 50% of my receiving stations have more than +10dB to 
+16dB on that scale
And sure the AGC is limiting the ability to receive weak stations on the same 
frequency ?  

To the other observation - For me it looks like the SW is decoding the same 
frame over and over gain ?

As long as the receiving station is calling me - and I answer - it all will 
continue as long as the other station is calling me - and the signal level will 
be the same all the time - it never changes ?
As soon as I change my receiving OR transmitting tone frequency by 1 Hz up then 
down - or hitting the CQ frame selector - then at the same time  the same 
station is replying with its receiving level - and then all is ok from there   
It's like its already decoded, but not shown - as it pops up straight away - 
not delayed until decoding next timeframe and so on ?

Regards
Steinar Fremme

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> On 14 Aug 2019, at 19:46, David Gilbert <xda...@cis-broadband.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Greetings Steinar.
> 
> It seems to me that both of your issues could be caused by a high local noise 
> level at your end.  Let's look at the second issue first.
> 
> WSJT-X doesn't report the absolute signal strength ... it reports the signal 
> strength relative to a (if I remember correctly) 2.5 KHz bandwidth at the 
> receiving location.  As an example, if your local noise level is 10 dB higher 
> than most other locations (easily possible), your transmit reports as 
> measured at the other end are going to be 10 dB better than the receive 
> reports you tell the other station.  Your local noise could be higher due to 
> many possible factors ... local industrial activity,  a neighbor with an 
> older plasma TV, somebody nearby using a welder, poor quality LED lights, a 
> noisy internet router, etc.
> 
> The same thing might be causing your first problem if your local noise level 
> isn't consistent, which it probably isn't.  It is possible that sometimes you 
> simply don't hear the other station's reply.  In your example, you wouldn't 
> know if the other station had already sent R-02 previously if your noise 
> level had popped up briefly and covered it up.  WSJT-X doesn't tell you how 
> many times the other station had sent the same report.  You say it only 
> happens rarely, so maybe the fact that doing something else fixes the problem 
> is simply coincidence based upon small sample size.  
> 
> Obviously I cannot say for certain ... I am just trying to offer helpful 
> speculation.  But a higher than typical noise level at your location ... for 
> any reason ... could produce similar symptoms.
> 
> I have the opposite "problem".  The noise level at my QTH is very low, so I 
> often give better reports than I receive and I often hear (read) 
> transmissions from other stations who can't hear me even though I have good 
> antennas and live on a steep hillside.  For the same signal strength each 
> direction a station I can consistently read  at -22 or -24 will usually not 
> be able to decode me.
> 
> Best regards,
> Dave   AB7E
> 

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