Bill,

Yes, the deprecated interface.

Thanks for following up.

73,

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Dave Slotter, W3DJS <https://www.qrz.com/db/W3DJS>


On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 6:44 AM Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com>
wrote:

> Dave,
>
> by "antiquated" UDP interface I assume you mean the deprecated N1MM
> Logger+ feed of logged QSOs. If so then this change has nothing to do with
> that.
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
>
> On 09/11/2020 03:29, Dave Slotter, W3DJS wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> My logging adapter, wsjtx_to_n3fjp, uses the antiquated UDP interface.
> After reading your message, I don't see anything needing adjustment in my
> software, but it probably is a good a time as any to ask how much longer
> the antiquated UDP interface will be in place.
>
> wsjtx_to_n3fjp may be downloaded / inspected from GitHub at:
> https://github.com/dslotter/wsjtx_to_n3fjp
>
> Please advise, and 73.
>
> --
> Dave Slotter, W3DJS <https://www.qrz.com/db/W3DJS>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 2:54 PM Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> the next release of WSJT-X (v.2.3.0 RC2) will change the way UDP
>> datagrams are sent by WSJT-X when being sent to a multicast group
>> address. Until now multicast datagram have been sent on the operating
>> system preferred network interface, which in most cases will be the
>> network with the default route, i.e. the local subnet. The new version
>> will send to the loop-back interface by default. This change is intended
>> to limit the scope of multicast traffic to no further than necessary,
>> and the vast majority of users will be running WSJT-X instances and
>> other interoperating application servers like JTAlert and Gridtracker on
>> the same host. For this the loop-back interface is available to all
>> applications and datagrams need not be sent any further afield.
>>
>> I foresee that applications that join a multicast group to receive
>> WSJT-X UDP datagrams will need to be changed to join the selected
>> multicast group on the loop-back interface. For backwards compatibility
>> it would seem wise to also optionally join the group on the local subnet
>> network interface, as they do now, in addition to joining on the
>> loop-back interface. This will both allow interoperation with older
>> versions of WSJT-X (pre-v2.3.0 RC2), and with WSJT-X instances
>> configured to send datagrams on a different network interface than the
>> loop-back interface; so applications running on other hosts in the
>> network can interoperate. The latter allowing more complex
>> configurations to be set up when necessary.
>>
>> This change has been prompted by some users apparently selecting
>> inappropriate multicast group addresses that in some circumstances may
>> be more widely routed than expected. Good choices of multicast group
>> addresses are in the 224.0.0.0/24 subnet (although these are officially
>> reserved for local network control these have the handy attribute that
>> they are never globally routed), in the 239.255.0.0/16 range, or IPv6
>> multicast addresses in the ffx1::/16, ffx2::/16, and ffx3::/16 ranges.
>> Other multicast addresses may be routed further afield if remote servers
>> join the chosen group address, although as I understand it ISPs in
>> general do not route *any* multicast datagrams *from* their subscribers.
>> Some ISP utilize a "flat" internetworking structure where many
>> subscribers (possibly thousands) are placed on the same subnet, I
>> believe  this more common amongst cable based ISPs. In those cases
>> multicast datagrams may travel across the extended subnet if not blocked
>> by subscriber firewalls.
>>
>> Note that applications that are only able support unicast UDP are not
>> affected by this change.
>>
>> I have sent pre-release versions of WSJT-X with this enhancement to the
>> authors of JTAlert and Gridtracker, if any other software authors
>> require a copy then let me know please.
>>
>> 73
>> Bill
>> G4WJS.
>>
>
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