Hi WSJT Developers,

I've not submitted a bug report before and hope that this email find its way to 
the appropriate team members.

Recently, in the RSGB low frequency and WSJT-X user groups I've raised the 
issue of the slow envelope rise times on FST4 and FST4W causing problems with 
the non-linear power amplifier designs (Class D or E) common among LF/MF users. 
 For your information, I've reproduced the original post in the WSJT-X group 
below, but note that the thread has developed as other users have injected 
their own experiences.  The thread is at: 
https://wsjtx.groups.io/g/main/topic/79269122?p=Created,,,20,2,0,0  In 
particular, please note that ON7YD has retracted his first measurements 
(referenced in my original post, below) and has supplied an update which agrees 
well with my own and other envelope risetime characterizations.

If you'd like any additional information or assistance, I'd be very happy to 
help.

73, and thanks for your assistance, Peter (VK6HP)


Original WSJT-X user group post containing details of issue and configuration:

Hello everyone,

I've just joined this group and would be interested to know if anyone can shed 
some light on an issue I'm experiencing.  I do quite a bit of work on 630 m 
using a TS-890S exciter and a homebrew 300 W Class D amplifier.  The 0 dBm 
drive for the PA is taken from the Kenwood "DRV" output.  For those interested, 
the transmit antenna is a ZS6BKW HF doublet loaded as a Marconi T and the most 
usual receive antenna is a 1 m diameter active loop.  I'm running Windows 10 on 
a Microsoft SurfaceBook and a USB connection between the PC and the radio's 
internal audio interface ("sound card").  The software version is WSJT-X 
v2.3.0-rc2, although the -rc1 version behaves identically. I use PTT/CAT 
control but have experimented with VOX with no resolution of the central issue.

I've had no problems running any JT modes on any bands until I began trying out 
the FST4 and 4W modes on 630 m a few months ago.  Both WSPR and JT9 work very 
well on 630 m and the new modes also work, but with a small twist: the risetime 
of the FST4 envelope is so slow that it upsets the clocking arrangement in the 
push-pull PA.  This causes the PA protection to activate, with a consequent 
small loss of signal at the start of the transmission.  It's not a particularly 
serious problem, but is annoying.  I do have a hardware fix in the form of what 
is essentially a noise gate circuit between the radio and PA; the drive signal 
has to be above a set level (chosen to reliably clock the PA) before it is 
passed to the amplifier.  However, after some recent investigation I can quite 
clearly see a difference in the transmit delays and transceiver waveforms when 
doing nothing else but changing from e.g. WSPR to FST4W-120.

In brief, the WSPR envelope rise time is of order a few milliseconds and the 
delays are well-behaved, with a zero transmit delay actually corresponding to a 
few ms delay in seeing the TS-890S drive waveform.  With FST4W, the RF envelope 
rise time is very slow indeed, with many tens of ms observed.  The transceiver 
delay is also much longer -  typically more than 100 ms.

I should add that I've successfully sent and received FST4W signals, including 
some 4-300 and 4-900 contacts.

I'm unable to spot any transceiver setting differences between old and new 
modes and have not yet experimented with other transceivers.  However one 
fellow member of the RSGB LF Group was kind enough to show that, using a simple 
sound card, he was unable to see any difference between the envelope 
characteristics of various modes.  It does look like a software issue to me and 
I'd appreciate comments from anyone running a similar setup, or with relevant 
suggestions.

73, Peter (VK6HP)



Peter J Hall
Emeritus Professor of Radio Astronomy Engineering, Curtin University

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Bentley Technology Park, WA 6102.

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