Yes, 3Y0J had this problem while their DT was within limits. And indeed some clever op's managed to work them. Is it possible that these op's used MSHV to match the wrong period?
73, Ton pa0tbr On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 14:44, William Smith via wsjt-devel < wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Wasn’t there a dxpedition recently that inadvertently had their clocks off > by 13 (?) seconds, and no one could work for them because they looked like > they were on the “wrong“ period? > > A few people were able to work around the limitations above, or set their > own clocks off by an equivalent amount, and were able to work them. > > So Murphy will always stick his nose in, and there’s almost always a > workaround. > > 73, Willie N1JBJ > > On Apr 10, 2023, at 7:13 AM, Alan McDonald via wsjt-devel < > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > And for additional clarity - something many OP may not try. If you try to > switch to Fox mode on a std frequency, you will be met with this popup > > <image.png> > > > You will not be able to TX in until you switch back to Normal mode or > change to a non-std frequency. > Alan > > On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 20:27, 5p1kzx Michael via wsjt-devel < > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > >> Hi Ton >> >> Those msg for different stations in a single stream and on the same time >> is mandatory for FT8DX Mode (WSJT-X F/H) but they can also be made by the >> MSHV Software and if a Station is TXing on the 15/45 periode and send out >> those msg for different station it can't be WSJT-X and it's not the real >> FT8DX Mode. A station in real Fox/Hound Mode (FT8DX) can't TX on 15/45 >> periode and can't on a standard FT8 QRG. A real Fox/Hound Station will >> always in TX 00/15 periods and always on a non-standard FT8 QRG. So if the >> DX-station is wringting somewhere that he or they will work on F/H mode on >> a standard FT8 QRG it cant be. That will be MSHV MADX (Multi-Slot) Mode >> witch is Pseudo Fox/Hound Mode - It looks like F/H Mode and it acts like >> F/H Mode but it ain't the real thing. >> >> 73 de 5p1kzx Michael >> >> >> Den 10-04-2023 kl. 10:28 skrev Ton PA0TBR via wsjt-devel: >> >> The messages had different reports for different stations in a single >> stream., my understanding is that this must be WJST-X F/H.. >> Please correct me if i am wrong. >> >> 73, Ton pa0tbr >> >> >> Op zo 9 apr. 2023 om 15:06 schreef Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel < >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> >>> And they are using the ”wrong” period on purpose an politely so that >>> you see immediately that the normal FT8 should be used by “hounds”. >>> >>> 73, Reino OH3mA >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Alan McDonald via wsjt-devel [mailto: >>> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] >>> *Sent:* sunnuntai 9. huhtikuuta 2023 15.05 >>> *To:* WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> *Cc:* Alan McDonald <a...@meta.com.au> >>> *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] F/H mode in wrong period >>> >>> >>> >>> I think you are assuming that they are using Fox and Hound with WSJT >>> flavours. They are more likely using MSHV which does not require odd/even >>> F/H. >>> >>> They just look like they are F/H but are just multi stream. You can work >>> them as normal >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 at 19:32, Ton PA0TBR via wsjt-devel < >>> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >>> >>> It becomes more often that I see Fox/Hound stations making QSO's in the >>> wrong period. >>> When I check my own time it is exact, according to time.is >>> Today again, I noticed a Fox in the wrong (odd) period together with >>> some Hounds transmitting in the for them correct (odd) period. >>> >>> But a few Hounds managed to transmit in the wrong (even) period enabling >>> a QSO. >>> >>> I wonder how these Hounds are able to follow in the wrong period? >>> >>> 73, >>> Ton pa0tbr >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wsjt-devel mailing list >>> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> regards >>> Alan McDonald >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wsjt-devel mailing list >>> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wsjt-devel mailing >> listwsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >> > > > -- > regards > Alan McDonald > _______________________________________________ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > > _______________________________________________ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >
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