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On 8/24/05, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dims, did u make a mistake on the mailing list?? Shouldn't it be
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> Sanjiva.
> 
> On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 09:07 -0700, Granqvist, Hans wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The main raison d'etre of TSIK was always simplicity.  As it is now,
> > TSIK runtime has only one single dependency, and that is on the
> > ubiquitous log4j.
> >
> > The freedom of a single jar, of a single download/compile to get
> > XML/SOAP security related stuff going, without worrying about this
> > and that other jar is very refreshing.  It makes it difficult for
> > the developer to screw up inadvertently.
> >
> > Again, simplicity is key, both for developers and deployers.  To
> > the greatest extent possible, I'd hate to lose that "instant
> > usability" of TSIK.
> >
> > Also, since TSIK is still in incubation, I don't know whether it
> > is prudent to depend on it too much. Could this not be a show-
> > stopper?
> >
> > So, in theory the idea of pooling resources sounds good but I'm not
> > convinced yet, for the above stated reasons. I have to think a bit.
> >
> > That said, I have only started in earnest looking at wss4j yesterday.
> > I will know more what I think about everything in a while. :)
> >
> > Dims, do you have a simple sketch/outline how you see the various
> > wss4j/tsik packages broken out and working together?  That would
> > definitely help me grok your plan.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hans
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sanjiva Weerawarana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:58 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: WSS4J and TSIK
> > >
> > > +1 .. I'd like to see TSIK broken up a bit more (and maybe appropriate
> > > parts moved to commons even?).
> > >
> > > Sanjiva.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 11:16 -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > > > Hans,
> > > >
> > > > [CC'ing wss4j-dev mailing list]
> > > >
> > > > Can we make/keep TSIK a soap engine agnostic toolkit (remove the
> > > > soap/transport stuff)? Then we can then position WSS4J as a project
> > > > for implementing ws-security in specific soap engines like JAX-RPC,
> > > > Axis 1.X and Axis 2.X.
> > > >
> > > > I'd also highly recommend abstracting out portions of WSS4J
> > > behind an
> > > > interface/factory such that we can plugin in TSIK based
> > > implementation
> > > > (and keep the existing implementation for some time since
> > > folks depend
> > > > on existing behavior). This way we can have implement OASIS
> > > > WS-Security 1.1 just in TSIK and automatically get WSS4J upgraded
> > > > instead of writing it twice. Same goes for say Kerberos
> > > token profile
> > > > or other profiles that we think are important.
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > dims
> > > >
> > >
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