At some point we should meet up and prioritize some of these issues. IRC is a good place to meetup for the overall group, otherwise we can meet with a few people on Skype. I should have some time next week to shoot through my initial points and start fleshing some of them out. Let me know if you're interested in taking one of them on or want to talk further.
Cheers, Charley Baker Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:05 AM, marekj <[email protected]> wrote: > I recovered 3 minutes of Hugh's talk. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjEaN-mmJ94 > The video shows a lot of participants in the room. > > > marekj > > http://rubytester.com > > > > > 2011/4/13 Bret Pettichord <[email protected]>: > > Hugh and I talked about the Convio branch. We saw that the Facebook guys > > have their fork on a Facebook account, and we want to do the same thing. > So > > that means we'll move the convio branch to a convio account. Although the > > real goal is to get Convio onto master. > > > > Moving the repo from my personal account to a Watir project account is > also > > on my roadmap, although it is after getting us to join the Software > Freedom > > Conservancy. I spoke with Bradley Kuhn in SF -- he's the director of the > > SFC. The revised deadline is the end of the month. Not sure if we'll be > able > > to make it. There is a ton of stuff that needs to be collected, if any > one > > wants to help get the ball rolling. > > > http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Joining+the+Software+Freedom+Conservancy > > > > I'm still in the process of replacing my laptop and ipad. > > > > I think you all saw the news that Marek was in fact able to recover some > of > > the Watir Day video. He posted excerpts from me and Charley's talk > > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS3yNY9hpx0) and has a lot footage from > > Hugh's talk and the Facebook talk, including the shot where they are > > standing in front of a slide that says "Facebook uses Watir". > > > > Still need to get slides from Simon and Alok and Brian uploaded to the > wiki. > > http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Watir+Day+Presentations > > > > > > Bret > > > > > > 2011/4/11 Charley Baker <[email protected]> > >> > >> Sorry to hear about the laptops, what a loss of equipment and the > >> intangibles like footage from Watir Day, personal code/files etc. I'm > >> definitely guilty of not watching my own stuff closely. Though tempting > to > >> have this old thing stolen, I need to at least make sure I'm backed up > >> regularly and covered through insurance. > >> I figured as much on the Convio branch, I'm not touching it, though we > >> probably should move it off to somewhere else. I suppose we could do a > basic > >> Watir account on Github. That might make it easier for finances? Not > sure, > >> but there are precedents - Rails and others. The other two branches were > >> merged back and didn't need to live anymore. I think we were figuring > out > >> git at the time. > >> I'll talk to Alok, their pull request should be easy to apply to current > >> 1.8.1, I briefly looked at it. I've not had to deal with localization to > >> that extent, but it's something that comes up often and there are tests. > >> With the money we currently have, we should look at CI, getting some EC2 > >> instances, since as you mentioned it's getting hard to have all the > >> environments we should have for development, the one that's biting me > now is > >> issues in IE9 which only installs on Windows7. > >> Anyhow, I'd love additional feedback on this or the individual points > that > >> I listed, many of which need to be fleshed out. I want to send updates > on > >> some of the this to the mailing list for Watir Day and copy the > >> watir-general list. > >> I suppose we could move this discussion to the wtr-dev list as well. > >> Instead of adding more people. Thanks Zeljko. :) > >> Cheers, > >> Charley Baker > >> Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com > >> > >> > >> 2011/4/11 Bret Pettichord <[email protected]> > >>> > >>> The zero-index branch is about 80% done. I was working on it some last > >>> week. The issue I was working with at that point was making the array > >>> operator also behave as a zero index. On Monday, I'll find out about > when my > >>> laptop might be replaced. Now I'm in the same boat as Charley -- not > having > >>> a good laptop for development of Watir. > >>> > >>> I was hoping to get some of the Convio changes merged into trunk, that > is > >>> why that is there. This is actually where we maintain the version we > use at > >>> Convio so please don't delete it. This is both the project repo as well > as > >>> my personal repo; perhaps a reason to move the official project repo > into > >>> another account? We could also perhaps move the branch to Hugh's > account. > >>> Since he and Marek work on this with me, I am looping him into this > >>> discussion. > >>> > >>> Branches should be deleted when they have been merged back in or > >>> abandoned. > >>> > >>> We need to sync up with the Facebook folks as well. I saw a pull > request > >>> from Alok recently. Looks like he wants us to patch 1.6.5. What do you > guys > >>> think about that? > >>> > >>> Bret > >>> > >>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Charley Baker < > [email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Yeah, agreed for now. We also need to make a push for the 0 index > >>>> branch. I've deleted some of the other branches, and would like to > delete > >>>> the Convio branch. Yah/Nay? > >>>> > >>>> And maybe focus some work with people to get the zero index branch > >>>> pulled in. We can also push on getting sync'd up with the watir-spec > >>>> branch. > >>>> Charley Baker > >>>> Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Jari Bakken <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> If the goal is to bring 1.X closer to watir-webdriver, we should > >>>>> target the watir2 branch of watirspec rather than master. I'd be > happy > >>>>> to set up and get HEAD running against the watir2 branch. I think > that > >>>>> would be a good starting point to move things forward (obviously > >>>>> discussing the bigger changes along the way). Fixing potential > >>>>> failures against watirspec's master branch seems like a waste of time > >>>>> to me. > >>>>> > >>>>> Obviously a big part of making those specs pass will be 0-indexing, > >>>>> but it will at least be well-tested without having to change the > >>>>> existing test suite too much (since it will be configurable). > >>>>> > >>>>> WDYT? > >>>>> > >>>>> Jari > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Charley Baker > >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > Oh absolutely, that was a quick draft. Btw, just sent this on to > >>>>> > Jarmo who > >>>>> > couldn't unfortunately make it this week, also copying Jari as > well. > >>>>> > There's > >>>>> > a lot here that's left off and needs to be fleshed out. I also > >>>>> > definitely > >>>>> > want to spend some time with Watirspec, and drive out the > >>>>> > inconsistencies > >>>>> > and failures. This is more of a braindump to get it down than > >>>>> > anything else, > >>>>> > and getting people involved and the discussion going. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Charley Baker > >>>>> > Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Jarmo <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> What about development of Watir itself? What about compat with > >>>>> >> Watir-Webdriver? Watirspec? > >>>>> >> J. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Charley Baker > >>>>> >> <[email protected]> > >>>>> >> wrote: > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> fyi, forgot to send this to you. > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>>>> >>> From: Charley Baker <[email protected]> > >>>>> >>> Date: Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 6:35 PM > >>>>> >>> Subject: Follow up on Watir day > >>>>> >>> To: Bret Pettichord <[email protected]>, Ċ½eljko Filipin > >>>>> >>> <[email protected]>, Alister Scott > >>>>> >>> <[email protected]>, Tim > >>>>> >>> Koopmans <[email protected]> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> After coming back from Watir Day and Selenium Conf, I want to > keep > >>>>> >>> the > >>>>> >>> momentum going. There are several things we can do to keep this > up, > >>>>> >>> and make > >>>>> >>> sure the enthusiasm for testing keeps up. Some of that depends on > >>>>> >>> hitting > >>>>> >>> the email list and some we can do as part of the project on our > >>>>> >>> main mailing > >>>>> >>> lists. Here's a quick summary of my thoughts: > >>>>> >>> * Blogs - related to watir and automation testing (CI, ATDD...) > >>>>> >>> * IRC > >>>>> >>> * Getting directly involved - Design skills, documentation, pull > >>>>> >>> requests, etc - we need some documentation around these areas > >>>>> >>> * Podcasts - contact Zeljko or he may contact you :) > >>>>> >>> * Answering questions on the mailing list > >>>>> >>> * Joining the dev mailing list - prioritizing JIRA tickets > >>>>> >>> * Testing prereleases on various OSes/browser combinations. > >>>>> >>> * Help with setting up and maintaining CI. (we don't have it now > >>>>> >>> but > >>>>> >>> should be able to do this with our current funds) > >>>>> >>> * Funding - getting more funds, and working through how to deal > >>>>> >>> with what > >>>>> >>> we have already > >>>>> >>> * Watir Day next year and around the world - Zeljko and the > >>>>> >>> European day, > >>>>> >>> as well as what we want to do for next year - US and/or Europe > >>>>> >>> * Watir Grid - and how to run distributed tests > >>>>> >>> I'd be happy to send this out to the mailing list and dev list, > >>>>> >>> possibly > >>>>> >>> the main list with some amendments to expand out the various > areas, > >>>>> >>> these > >>>>> >>> are the high level topics and I'd hope to get more information > for > >>>>> >>> specifics > >>>>> >>> on each from everyone. Let me know what you think. I want to send > >>>>> >>> out > >>>>> >>> something in the next week. > >>>>> >>> Forward on at will if you think other people should be involved. > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> Cheers, > >>>>> >>> Charley Baker > >>>>> >>> Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Bret Pettichord > >>> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com > >>> > >>> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com > >>> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Bret Pettichord > > Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com > > > > Blog, www.testingwithvision.com > > Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > [email protected] > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
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