Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Dan Connolly wrote:
Even "Bad value text for attribute type on XHTML element input." is technically correct although not exactly helpful (see error class 4 below). This message is the #1 usability bug, BTW.
I think it's a spec bug.

I don't think it's cost-effective to try to constrain authors in this respect. I hope this constraint is dropped from HTML 5.

It's actually a relaxation of constraints in HTML4. In HTML4 the element isn't allowed there at all, but we figured that was too strict when it came to the type="hidden" value elements, since those don't affect the user at all (they're hidden by definition).

Do the browsers behave differently when faced with the input I provided? Which of these messages indicate a specific and real interop problem?

If the answer to the question of "why does the html5 conformance checker produce this message?" is "because the spec says so"; and the answer to "why does the spec say so" is "because previous specs said so"; and the "solution" in many cases is to simply add back in "noise" <div> tags, then this non-answer coupled with the unfriendliness of the conformance checker messages (something I have great sympathy for as it is often very hard when faced with bad input and complicated/confusing specs to make correct and simple suggestions) coupled with the sheer number of messages produced coupled with the perceived "make-workness" of the answer will cause many people to not bother.

My 0.02 anyway, for what it is worth.

- Sam Ruby


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