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Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Sam Ruby wrote:
I presume, from your e-mail, that you do not consider this to be debate:

   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jun/0173.html

Could you elaborate on why?
I believe that the following:

|  > *       We need summary for backward compatibility.
|
|  HTML5 supports implementing the summary="" attribute for backwards
|  compatibility as currently written.

... is an example of what Laura describes as "selectively choosing those points in a subject which happen to favor a position, while ignoring the rest".

What were the points that were ignored here?

The fact that summary is non-conforming.

Another, more recent, example is "The browser vendors are the ultimate gatekeepers, of course".

What points does this ignore? I don't understand.

The fact that no behavior is being asked of the browser vendors.

(I've filed the remainder of your e-mail with other summary feedback; I'd like to focus on trying to understand exactly what I'm doing wrong before responding, since there's no point we responding if the way I do so is wrong.)

The remainder of my email was intended to demonstrate what I thought would have been a response more conducive to continuing a dialog; my preference as chair is to minimize the times when I actively take a position myself.

Ian, you produce (and consume!) an immense amount of material. The fact that I was able to find something in the one email that you cited which might be construed by some as being /incomplete/ (as opposed to *wrong*) is not surprising.

Meanwhile, I failed to be explicit. The fact that I did not comment on the remainder of the post you cited is an indication that I believe that it did further the dialog.

- Sam Ruby

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