On 30 Nov 2011, at 6:19 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote:

> On 11/28/11 3:32 PM, ext Ian Jacobs wrote:
>> On 28 Nov 2011, at 2:25 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/28/11 11:00 AM, ext Ian Jacobs wrote:
>>>> On 28 Nov 2011, at 9:05 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> As you know, WebApps has two XHR specs in its charter: XHR(1) and XHR2:
>>>> Hi Art,
>>>> 
>>>>>  XMLHttpRequest (aka XHR1) ; CR published 2-Aug-2010
>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/TR/XMLHttpRequest/
>>>>> 
>>>>>  XMLHttpRequest Level 2 ; last WD published 16-Aug-2011
>>>>>  http://www.w3.org/TR/XMLHttpRequest2/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne is currently the Editor of both specs and he can no longer commit to 
>>>>> XHR1 and no one else in WebApps is willing to be the Editor of XHR1. 
>>>>> However, Anne did commit to continue work on XHR2.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As such, our basic requirements for these two specs are:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Use the XHR shortname for what is now the XHR2 spec
>>>>> * No longer use the XHR2 shortname
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, how do we actually go about this? Is there a precedence we can follow 
>>>>> or learn from? Please provide your advice/recommendation here ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> One option is to simply redirect the XHR2 shortname to XHR and add some 
>>>>> explanatory text to the new XHR spec that explains the rationale for 
>>>>> merging the two specs. Note, however, a few people indicated the simple 
>>>>> redirection as problematic but I think the majority of the WG supports it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another option is to update the document in TR/XHR2/ to reflect the 
>>>>> group's decision to consolidate the specs into TR/XHR/ and to effectively 
>>>>> obsolete the TR/XHR2 spec. Could the editing of TR/XHR2/ done "in place" 
>>>>> or would it require re-publishing it (possibly as WG Note?)?
>>>> That is my main question: is there any reason for XHR1 to survive? If not, 
>>>> then it seems like whatever is the thing people care about most should be 
>>>> XHR1.
>>> The contents of the document at TR/XHR/ (aka XHR1) will not survive. The WG 
>>> wants to replace the contents of TR/XHR/ with the contents of TR/XHR2/ 
>>> (well actually, the latest ED of XHR2) and we will never again publish 
>>> anything at  TR/XHR2/.
>> 
>> Could you move what you want to XHR and call it "XMLHttpRequest 1"?
> 
> I think Anne does not want to include a version/level number in the title.

Fine by me.

> 
>> You could (for now) end the XHR2 line with 1-page stub document that says 
>> "We've moved! But we're keeping this stub document in the case we really do 
>> want to publish an XHR2 someday."
> 
> Yes, we could do something like that.
> 
> It seems like this boils down to: is the Team (Pub, Comm and WebApps) OK with 
> going the redirect option? If not, what is the Team's recommendation?

Since the group is essentially merging two docs into one, I don't see how to 
avoid a redirect. 
+1 to using "version 1" (even if the 1 is silent) instead of "version 2" for 
the merged result.

It would be helpful to include in the status section a short statement about 
the merger. 

Ian


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