Hi Ivan, > I were wondering whether it makes sense to have an informal telco, a bit like > the CSS one, on HTML related issues.
Yes, this would be a good thing. Did you have a timeframe in mind, I guess we should target some time before summer kicks in? /markus On Apr 4, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Ivan Herman <[email protected]> wrote: > Markus, > > I know you were on vacations, so you may have missed this mail: Robin and I > were wondering whether it makes sense to have an informal telco, a bit like > the CSS one, on HTML related issues. It would involve you and IDPF people in > that area, and probably the current editors of HTML5. > > WDYT? > > Ivan > > On Apr 4, 2013, at 01:27 , Markus Gylling <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Robin, >> thanks for your email and pleased to meet you too! >> >>> That is just one topic amongst potentially several that I would like to >>> discuss (but there is no rush). In general, I am interested in features >>> that EPUB adds that aren't available on the vanilla "browser" web. I >>> believe that those should provide use cases for additions to HTML. (Note >>> that I'm not saying that HTML should just import them as is — but I do >>> think that we should strive for convergence and I want to help with that.) >> >> Glad to hear this -- and also agree that among the topics that relate to >> further harmonisation between EPUB and the OWP, usage of @role is just one >> of many items, and @role is not necessarily the sole or ideal solution the >> particular "problem" of structural inflection either. That said, @role is >> arguably the closest relative that we have for @epub:type in W3C space right >> now, so we are definitely interested in continuing this discussion. >> >>> The first questions I received were about how much this was implemented in >>> actual readers, i.e. how actual implementations change their behaviour >>> (compared to an unmodified HTML engine) based on these types. If you have >>> any way in which I could easily find such information, it would be most >>> helpful. >> >> Right. There are not many demoable implementations of specific reading >> system behaviours at this point (beyond the footnote behaviours in ibooks >> that everybody seems to know about). But there are several concrete (and >> general, as opposed to AT-specific) use cases for it in the pipeline, >> including as Ivan mentions the identification of structures such as >> glossaries, dictionaries and indexes. I will keep you updated as >> implementations emerge, both general and AT-specific. >> >> For now, /markus >> >> >> >> On Apr 2, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Robin Berjon <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Markus, >>> >>> On 27/03/2013 14:49 , Ivan Herman wrote: >>>> Robin, please meat Markus Gylling, CTO of IDPF and also possible >>>> chair of the upcoming Digital Publishing IG. >>> >>> Pleased to meet you! >>> >>>> Markus, I had some discussions with Robin on the question we were >>>> discussing a while ago you and me, on whether the @role attribute >>>> could be used in EPUB3.01 to replace the current idpf:type attribute >>>> for, say, glossary items. I just forward you the relevant issues; I >>>> let you two discuss the technical details, if any... >>> >>> That is just one topic amongst potentially several that I would like to >>> discuss (but there is no rush). In general, I am interested in features >>> that EPUB adds that aren't available on the vanilla "browser" web. I >>> believe that those should provide use cases for additions to HTML. (Note >>> that I'm not saying that HTML should just import them as is — but I do >>> think that we should strive for convergence and I want to help with that.) >>> >>> Concerning @role, I started discussing the potential usage of it from EPUB >>> types. The first questions I received were about how much this was >>> implemented in actual readers, i.e. how actual implementations change their >>> behaviour (compared to an unmodified HTML engine) based on these types. If >>> you have any way in which I could easily find such information, it would be >>> most helpful. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -- >>> Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ - @robinberjon >> > > > ---- > Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ > mobile: +31-641044153 > FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf > > > > >
