Andrew --

That may be the only supported version from Sun but I am sympathetic to
Mac users on Mac OS 9 for whom JDK 1.1.8 is still supported and who
don't have the choice to upgrade JDKs and stay on that OS.
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be enough interest in the older Mac
operating systems to convince Apple devote resources towards porting JDK
1.3 back to them.  Also, it doesn't seem like any third parties would
like to create a JDK for the older Macs.  So, for Mac OS 9 users, they
are stuck.

I think a large part of what XalanJ should do depends on the magnitude
of this problem.  If we have, say, two users who can't upgrade to Java
2, it doesn't seem like we should limit everyone else to the lowest
common denominator.  On the other hand, if this affects a large portion
of the community, that is a different story.  Remember, per Shane's -1,
release 2.3 would still run on 1.1.8.  That release is fully compliant
with XSLT 1.0 and implements all of its features.  So, if you have an
old computer, running an old operating system, you'll eventually be
limited to running old software.  Just like you won't be able to run any
of the Mac OS X only applications that are coming out.

So, for those of you who are limited to JDK 1.1.8, please speak out now
so that you can be counted.  I've already counted Elliotte Rusty Harold.

Elliotte --

When do you think that MacOS 9 will no longer be a common option among
those Mac users interested in a Java-based XSLT Processor?  Six months,
two years?

Gary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 3:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Second call: Does anyone still really require 
> Java 1.1 support?
> 
> 
> I don't see any problem to drop JDK 1.1, right now
> the only supported version of JDK is JDK 1.3.1_02.
> 
> And, it is very common for clients to install multiple
> versions of JDK on their system.  If they are brave
> enough to try any version of Xalan, they will should
> be very comfortable with JDK 1.3 or 1.4.
> 
> Andrew Duan
> Escalate, Inc.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris McCabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 3:37 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Second call: Does anyone still really require Java 1.1 
> > support?
> > 
> > 
> ...
> > 
> > Here is the list as far as I know:
> > Pro - Developers can use JDK1.2 and stop worrying about 1.1 
> Con - Some 
> > clients will be forced to stay at older revision
> > 
> > Is that all?
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > Shane Curcuru wrote:
> > 
> > >A couple of notes:
> > >
> > >-1 to dropping JDK 1.1.8 support before our official 2.3 release 
> > >(within a week-ish) -sc
> > >
> > >+1 to dropping JDK 1.1.8 support after our 2.3 release; at 
> this point
> > >we would require a minium of JDK 1.2.2 to compile & run Xalan. -sc
> > >
> > >This is essentially a call for a vote by the Xalan
> > committers and call
> > >for comments from the Xalan community.  If we don't hear
> > clear comments
> > >(and have volunteers to help) about changing this, you 
> should assume 
> > >we'll make this change in the next few weeks.
> > >
> > >- Shane
> > >(P.S. sorry Gary et al for dropping the ball on 1.1.8
> > compilation last
> > >week...  8-)
> > >
> > >---- you [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ----
> > >
> > >>I know _we've_ all upgraded (except for folks running MSVJ+, whom
> > >>
> > >even
> > >
> > >>Microsoft has abandoned)... but when we asked this a year 
> or so ago,
> > >>
> > >some
> > >
> > >>of you said you had customers who were absolutely unwilling to
> > >>
> > >upgrade.
> > >
> > >>I think it's time to ask whether that's still an issue, 
> and whether
> > >>
> > >Xalan
> > >
> > >>wants to continue to cater to (and be limited by) that audience.
> > >>
> > >Sticking
> > >
> > >>with the older classes may be costing us performance, though that
> > >>
> > >hasn't
> > >
> > >>been firmly established yet.
> > >>So: If we cut over, how loud will the explosion be?
> > >>
> > >
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