Hello Philip,

> I just compiled and installed.  Works!!
> 
> But doing so pointed out an annoyance (for me).  Is there a way
> to avoid having to muck around in /usr/local/lib every time I
> install?  When I "sudo make install" xcstartup.tcl gets
> overwritten.  I did figure out I could put my library setup in
> ~/.xcircuitrc - but unless I comment out the library setup in
> xcstartup.tcl I get the content of both.  And it's not that I
> don't like your libraries!  *smiles*

Yes!  If you look in the xcstartup.tcl file, you'll see that
it looks for and loads a file called "site.tcl" in the same
directory (/usr/local/lib).  The "site.tcl" file does NOT get
overwritten, and so you can put everything unique to your setup
in it, write it to /usr/local/lib, and then never have to muck
about in /usr/local/lib again.

By the way, the "site.tcl" is a complete override for
xcstartup.tcl, but it can do nothing, and only your .xcircuitrc
file will be sourced.

> Is the list really down?  I'm not seeing any new archive
> content.  The last one I see is your post on 2011-09-04 stating
> the list is back up...

Hmm, I bet that the posts are being held due to a mail list
configuration reset. . .  But thanks for pointing it out.
I assumed that since my test post worked, that everything was
good.  Obviously not the case.  I just checked it, and I can't
see anything obvious, but I'll monitor it closely for the next
few weeks.

> Then while I'm dreaming....
> 
> Is it possible to anchor to a page corner rather than the
> center?  I used a title block box that should always be all
> the way in the corner.  I sure like the new ability to
> manually add a "bounding box" and enter a horizontal or
> vertical size and have the output scaled - but if I don't get
> the bounding box aspect just right, the title box on that
> page doesn't match the others.

I always go to the output window, and use the "auto scale"
button along with the bounding box to see whether the box is
limited by width or by height, and then readjust it until the
aspect ratio is correct for the page.  I have been doing this
for so long, it sort of escaped my attention what a clumsy
method it was.

> And, I'm still struggling with libraries, in particular
> the dialog box that opens for creating an object ("M") and
> saving a technology page.  If my cursor has to cross any other
> window, the text entry field is cleared.  I work around this
> when creating an object by typing the fully qualified name
> with the "::".  Just a slight annoyance.

I'll consider that a bug report.  However, there are some
difficulties with managing multiple pages in multiple windows,
in which one has to track where the cursor is to make sure that
a dialog box refers to the window one thinks it's supposed to.
But there is probably a way to avoid clearing the text entry
field until the cursor enters a different xcircuit window.

> However, the same behavior occurs when I'm trying to save a
> technology page.  I will choose "write all" from the menu and
> often I have to choose "force" because the technology page I
> just changed isn't listed.  (Sometimes I don't have a "force"
> button.  I haven't figure out the when or why).  With the
> "force" dialog open, if I just click on "write", I get "Error,
> file name required" - I _think_ from the library page trying
> to save. (technology page?  So far my libraries each consist
> of one technology.  Call it holdover from the old
> way. *smiles* )

If I fix the problem above, this should go along with it.

> I have found that I can click on the white box with a dash
> ("-") that is next to each of the library/technology I can
> save them one at a time and the (necessary) full path to the
> file is filled in - except if my cursor has can't move from
> the "force" dialog to the "write" dialog the text box is
> cleared.  

> My choice then is to cancel and try again, and again, and
> again, until the window manager (openbox), or whoever, happent
> to place the "write" dialog so it intersects with the "force"
> dialog so I can move my cursor without clearing the text
> field.  Or by using copy/paste (I depend on "tab" to spell my
> path names...) to fill in the path since there isn't a
> "browse" option.
> 
> Is this normal behavior?  Would it be hard to provide a browse
> function to the technology write dialog box?  Or am I just
> doing something wrong (again)?

No, clearly this is an interface problem, and it is clearly
worse than I realized;  sometimes that is a matter of what
window manager you are using, but I will see if I can duplicate
the behavior and figure out how to fix it.

> Anyway, after all that complaining, I still think Xcircuit is
> the top program for doing this type of drawings.  I use
> inkscape, gimp, qcad, and bricscad pretty heavily (and others
> not so heavily) and xcircuit requires less attention than any
> of the others thereby leaving my brain to think about the
> _drawing_, not about how to do this action.  I'm even kinda
> getting used to canceling the selection after a "select then
> move".  Most of the time. *grin* It continues to be the
> easiest, fastest, and most accurate draw application.  

And thanks for your praise. . . I have extra incentive to make sure
that this post gets into the archive.  :)
                                                ---Tim

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