Sounds like most of the repliers prefer the conventional way of calculating 
arrival altitude without assuming that the only lift I will find along the way 
is 0.5 knot since I am using conservative STF and that I will be silly enough 
to circle in it while drifting more than climbing. I can't imagine why someone 
would prefer it this way but I realize that there will always be opposite 
opinions. 

So the conclusion is to make it configurable. I am concerned that such a 
critical change was made without making it an option. 

I would like to request that any enhancement made going forward will be 
*always* made configurable if it will change any existing behavior. This is 
crucial to make XCS safe and reliable.

Turbo, please let me know if I still need to open a ticket.  I think this 
should be fixed ASAP, I personally wouldn't want to fly with it again this way, 
after almost picking up an alternate landing believing XCS which was telling me 
there is no way I can make it... I may need to switch back to my old PDA 
running WinPilot until this bug is fixed..

Ramy

On Nov 21, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Sascha Haffner <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> regarding speeds to fly - I use my LX5000 for speed to fly indication (beep 
> sounds) and therefore I set my best guess for MC at the LX5000 (Cambridge 
> etc).  XCS I use with a safety MC value (higher, than the MC in the LX) with 
> Vers. 6.0.10 (old solver) to give me conservative values of AltRequired / 
> Arrival Height.  While comparing the arrival heights of the two instruments 
> it gives me a nice redundancy (using even two GPS sources, Flarm and LX) and 
> ease of mind.
> But again, I understand not everyone flies that way or has two instruments - 
> therefore please please make the solver use configuable.
>  
> Thank you guys.
>  
> Cheers,
> Sascha
> 
> Von: Evan Ludeman <[email protected]>
> An: [email protected] 
> Gesendet: 17:52 Montag, 21.November 2011
> Betreff: Re: [Xcsoar-user] About MC and tasks
> 
> No, you're certainly not alone.  I've been trading email with JW privately 
> this morning.  
> 
> Ramy, I agree with everything you've said here.  I fly the same way.  
> 
> FWIW, I never use a PDA for final glide... there's too darned many ways to 
> get it wrong and XCS seems to be exacerbating the trend here.  I rag on other 
> aspects of the 302/303, but one thing it does pretty well is calculate a 
> glide to a turnpoint.  It will also do a final glide with HW/TW component 
> wind which is *really* useful. and yet to be picked up by XCS.
> 
> Another thing I pretty much never do is take speed to fly information from 
> any instrument.  You understand why!
> 
> There's a critical need in soaring software to separate speed to fly from 
> glide calculation that so far hasn't been met by anyone.  It is often the 
> case that the fast (and safe) way home is Mc 1 or 2 speed to fly and Mc 3 or 
> better on final glide.  Likewise, speed on task need not be calculated by 
> your speed to fly Mc setting.
> 
> -Evan Ludeman / T8
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Ramy Yanetz <[email protected]> wrote:
> After using XCSoar for a while I am very impressed with it but at the same 
> time surprise that it assumes that everybody fly according to MC theroy and 
> with pre defined tasks. Most pilots I know, which are serious XC pilots, do 
> not set tasks and do not fly according to MC theory, which is way overrated. 
> In most place in western US you will want to fly at low MC to stay at the 
> sweet spot above the mountains and near the clouds. But it looks like XCSoar 
> insists that if you don't fly according to MC you can't go anywhere since you 
> can't climb, and that if you fly for OLC than you also have a task pre 
> declared.
> Flying strictly according to MC is a guarantee way to land out often. An 
> example from my last flight:  release at 1500 feet, made 3 turns in 3 knots 
> and hit the inversion at 2000 feet, next thing you know XCSoar tells you  to 
> dive to the ground at 80+ knots at MC 3. Instead of flying at best glide to 
> stay aloft. And if I change to mc zero it assumed I can not go anywhere 
> upwind since I can not climb. If so, how did I manage to fly 200km tip toeing 
> from one thermal to next at MC  between zero and 0.5?
> I think this is a flaw to assume this. Am I alone thinking this?
> 
> Ramy
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