Yes, I suppose every application shortcut that uses Ctrl should replace
it with Command when run on macOS. Back when I was a Mac guy, apps which
didn't do this were very annoying. Seems like a reasonable thing to add
to the spec.
Nate
On 6/8/20 4:23 PM, Sparr wrote:
This spec does not just apply to whole desktop environments. It claims
to apply to applications as well. I am calling out applications that run
both in FOSS desktop environments AND in other environments.
GIMP is one such example. Until recently, GIMP used the same set of
libraries to build for Mac and Linux, and the same shortcuts (unless the
user changed them). For example, it used ctrl+c for "copy" on both OSes.
However, since it has gained the ability to run natively on macOS,
instead of through an X11 server, the default shortcuts have been
changed such that they are ctrl+c on non-mac OSes and command/super+c on
mac.
I don't think this is a serious issue, but it's still relevant to the
development of cross-platform applications like that.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 3:14 PM Nate Graham <n...@kde.org
<mailto:n...@kde.org>> wrote:
I'm not sure it's relevant. This spec is for FOSS desktop environments.
Typically you aren't going to be installing Plasma or GNOME on a Mac on
top of macOS. You might wipe macOS and install a FOSS OS, in which case
the spec fully applies with no issues.
Nate
On 6/8/20 4:11 PM, Sparr wrote:
> I think it's worth calling out, although I suspect most of us are
> already aware, that in macOS most applications use the
command/super key
> for shortcuts that would use ctrl in other OSes, while still also
using
> ctrl and option/alt as application modifier keys as well.
>
> I do not expect cross-platform apps to change their behavior on
macOS as
> a result of this standard, even if they are otherwise compliant.
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 5:37 PM Nate Graham <n...@kde.org
<mailto:n...@kde.org>
> <mailto:n...@kde.org <mailto:n...@kde.org>>> wrote:
>
> On 5/6/20 6:05 PM, Noah Davis wrote:
> > Start key == Windows key. Maybe I didn't use the right
name, but I've
> > always called it the Start key since it opens the start
menu. It's
> > called Meta in Qt and Super in GTK.
>
> ...And if you're using a Mac keyboard, the command key (the
one with
> the
> cloverleaf symbol on it) maps to
Meta/Super/Win/Start/whatever we're
> calling it. :)
>
> +1 for the original proposal. Since GNOME is already doing this,
> perhaps
> we could make a formal XDG spec recommending it. Seems pretty
> logical to me.
>
> Nate
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