A wise old hermit known only as =?iso-8859-1?Q?Aslak_Helles=F8y?= 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> once said:

> I think this is a good idea, but we need to sort out a few issues:
> 
> 1) I suppose you mean moving the whole xdoclet module to jboss.
> 2) If my assumption is right on 1), we must update our build system to 
> get the sources from jboss when building.
>    I guess we still want the maven-generated site to include the jboss
> documentation. -Or would a link be ok?

If the whole module is moving to jboss, I reckon we shouldn't be building 
or documenting it at all; let them do that, and we'll just put a link to 
their site somewhere in the docs.

> 3) As the core evolves, so must the jboss module. The jboss module's 
> build should continuously integrate with the core.

Again, if they're taking ownership of the module, it's up to them to keep 
up with any changes we make IMO.  For our part, BWC becomes more 
important, though.

> 4) We need to decide what's the right time for this. Right after 1.2 
> release, or when XDoclet 2.0 (velocity) is up and running?
> 5) If we go for this approach, should we encourage other "spi" projects 
> to do the same, so we can focus on the core?
> 6) We must provide strict guidelines, so we can continue to define a 
> set of common cross-container tags like @ejb-persistence etc.

And here's the main drawback... if they're maintaining the module 
themselves, we lose a degree of control for doing things like 
consolidating the vendor-specific stuff.  They could add/use whatever tags 
they like, whether they're consistent with the other modules' or not.  At 
least at present we can manage things like that better.  There's nothing 
stopping them from submitting patches, and of course if any of them are 
volunteering to maintain the module we can always give them CVS commit 
access.

Guess that makes me a -0.


Andrew.

> Aslak
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 19. september 2002 21:49
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Xdoclet-devel] DISCUSSION: removing JBoss tags
> >
> >
> > XDocleteers,
> >
> > There is a push to get the JBoss XDoclet tags under JBoss-CVS.  This 
> > would
> > represent a shift in ownership/responsibility/location of all the
> > JBoss-specific tags/tasks/templates to the JBoss project.
> >
> > It may sound a little distressing at first, but in reality, it is a 
> > major
> > win for XDoclet.
> >
> > The basic argument *for* moving JBoss module to JBoss-CVS comes
> > down to one
> > question, 'Why does XDoclet have any custom, vendor-specific modules?'
> > Answer:  because the vendors didn't care/know anything about XDoclet 
> > and
> > wouldn't/couldn't/didn't-know-how-to supply their own tags!
> >
> > Well, JBoss is all over XDoclet.  It is used in generating JMX 
> > components
> > and in the test-suite.  With the move to JBoss, the tags will be 
> > versioned
> > with the appropriate releases of JBoss (extremely important as
> > JBoss goes to
> > 24x7x365 support).  When users download JBoss, they will get a
> > JBoss module
> > that supports their version of JBoss.  It also allows the JBoss 
> > developers
> > to keep the JBoss module up-to-date with the latest changes to
> > JBoss.  JBoss
> > developers will now be *required* to develop/maintain JBoss tags as 
> > they
> > add/remove/change features of JBoss.
> >
> > Another not-so-obvious point is exposure.  JBoss gets an average
> > of 150,000+
> > downloads a month (~208,000 in 04/02).  They have users with CD
> > subscriptions, Marc Fleury regularly gives briefings to Java User 
> > Groups,
> > advanced training occurs almost twice a month all over the world,
> > ... JBoss
> > is the hottest thing since sliced bread!  Now, everywhere JBoss goes,
> > XDoclet will be taught as the way to develop EJBs!
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Michael


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