On 2002.12.05 23:36:21 -0500 tek1 wrote:
> hi david.
> 
> thank you very much for your reply.
> 
> i was considering using xdoclet's generateGUID() method to generate
> random 
> id's for the entities/records, but this appears to break down in jboss' 
> horizontal positioning approach, unless in the ejbCreate() method for the
> 
> SUBCLASS, it checks to see if the id generated by generateGUID() exists
> in 
> the PARENT entity/table.
> 
> does this sound correct?

I dont' knwo how it works.  If it can generate collisions I don't really
see why "GUID" is in the name. I'd use a generator/sequence from the db and
make sure all tables use the same generator.

david

> 
> thanks again.
> 
> 
> At 23:11 02/12/05 -0500, you wrote:
> >At the moment jboss figures the BASE and EXTENDED entity beans are
> >unrelated and is happy if they have the same id.  I've been trying to
> get
> >some discussion going about how to support polymorphic entity beans in
> >jboss, but so far haven't had much response.
> >
> >JBoss 4 will be able to map an entity to more than one table, so the
> >vertical partitioning (and presumably the typed scheme) will be
> possible.
> >
> >you are pretty much on your own for generateing pk values anyway, so you
> >can choose a scheme whereby BASE and EXTENDED don't share numbers.
> >
> >david jencks
> >
> >
> >
> >On 2002.12.05 21:22:01 -0500 tek1 wrote:
> > > hi marc!
> > >
> > > thank you for the clarification.
> > >
> > > the reason why i asked is because if jboss uses horizontal
> partitioning,
> > > is
> > > it possible for the same id to be used for different objects in
> different
> > > tables?
> > >
> > > for example, given the following tables:
> > >
> > > BASE
> > > -oid
> > > -name
> > >
> > > EXTENDED
> > > -oid
> > > -name
> > > -age
> > >
> > >
> > > if in BASE, the following record exists:
> > >
> > > BASE
> > > oid | name
> > > ---|-----
> > >   1  | marc
> > >
> > > and we want to add a new record (entity instance having different
> data)
> > > to
> > > EXTENDED, does jboss know not to use an oid of "1" in EXTENDED, since
> it
> > > already exists in the BASE table?
> > >
> > > also, how can one protect against outside access of the db (i.e.
> using a
> > > db
> > > management/sql tool) from someone inserting records with the same id
> (but
> > >
> > > different data) into BASE and ENTITY?  it seems like this opportunity
> for
> > >
> > > error is prevented with the vertical partitioning approach, but not
> with
> > > the horizontal partitioning approach.  does jboss compensate somehow
> for
> > > this?
> > >
> > > thank you again.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 18:28 02/12/05 +0100, you wrote:
> > > >Hello,
> > > >
> > > > > when one entity bean extends another, does the extending entity
> > > bean's
> > > > > table include all of the fields of its parents in its own table?
> > > >         I don't know how this is solved within JBoss, but
> conceptually
> > > you
> > > >have three possibilities:
> > > >
> > > >         #1 - typed partitioning
> > > >
> > > >         the sum of all fields are stored in a base table, having an
> > > >additional column defining what kind of object it is: base, or
> extended.
> > > >
> > > >         for instance
> > > >
> > > >         BASE
> > > >         String name
> > > >
> > > >         EXTENDED
> > > >         int age
> > > >
> > > >         would result in the table BASE having
> > > >         oid INTEGER - object identifier
> > > >         name VARCHAR
> > > >         age INTEGER
> > > >         objType INTEGER (or some kind of IDENTIFIER)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         #2 - horizontal partitioning
> > > >
> > > >         all fields are repeated in each table for the subclasses.
> > > >
> > > >         this would result in a table EXTENDED with oid, name and
> age,
> > > and in
> > > >a table BASE with oid and name.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         #3 - vertical partitioning
> > > >
> > > >         only the very fields belonging to the class are stored in
> the
> > > >corresponding table
> > > >
> > > >         this would result in a table BASE with oid and name, and in
> a
> > > table
> > > >EXTENDED with oid (also referencing BASE(oid)) and age.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > when i deployed 2 entity beans, one extending the other, the
> > > extending
> > > > > bean's db table had all the fields defined of its parents'
> table...
> > > >         then JBoss adopted the horizontal solution...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         Regards,
> > > >
> > > >         Marc
> 
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