As I said, this works for me for Xen guests. I thought perf kvm might check whether there is a KVM guest but it's not. The error message that you see is generated at the end of sampling if no samples are found.
Oh, I see. I tried the same command and check the contents of the perf.data.kvm file, and it seems like it does not have hardware counters. I’ve used the command ‘perf stat -d -d -d -a’ to collect the hardware counters. Are there any way to collect hardware counters and distinguish them from the host? What Xen and Linux versions are you running (xl info)? Here are the information from the command (xl info): release : 3.10.0+10 version : #19 SMP Mon Aug 29 10:17:18 EDT 2016 machine : x86_64 nr_cpus : 4 max_cpu_id : 3 nr_nodes : 1 cores_per_socket : 4 threads_per_core : 1 cpu_mhz : 3292 hw_caps : b7ebfbff:17bae3ff:28100800:00000001:00000001:00000000:00000000:00000100 virt_caps : hvm total_memory : 8079 free_memory : 7076 sharing_freed_memory : 0 sharing_used_memory : 0 outstanding_claims : 0 free_cpus : 0 xen_major : 4 xen_minor : 6 xen_extra : .1 xen_version : 4.6.1 xen_caps : xen-3.0-x86_64 xen-3.0-x86_32p hvm-3.0-x86_32 hvm-3.0-x86_32p hvm-3.0-x86_64 xen_scheduler : credit xen_pagesize : 4096 platform_params : virt_start=0xffff800000000000 xen_changeset : xen_commandline : dom0_mem=752M,max:752M watchdog=0 ucode=scan dom0_max_vcpus=4 crashkernel=128M@256M console=vga vga=mode-0x0311 vpmu=bts loglvl=all guest_loglvl=all hap=0 cc_compiler : gcc (GCC) 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-4) cc_compile_by : root cc_compile_domain : cc_compile_date : Mon Aug 29 12:11:32 EDT 2016 build_id : 16b0170b4215754184393e894660df6ceac6f940 xend_config_format : 4 Do you know whether performance counters are enabled (dmesg | grep Performance)? Here is the output from the command, and I think the performance counter (vPMU driver) enabled. [ 0.016096] Performance Events: 16-deep LBR, SandyBridge events, Intel PMU driver. Really appreciate for your support, Sanghyun. On Aug 30, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrov...@oracle.com<mailto:boris.ostrov...@oracle.com>> wrote: On 08/29/2016 08:12 PM, Sanghyun Hong wrote: Hi Boris, /[Appreciate for your support, and I have one last question]/ Since we’re using the */Xen/* hypervisor (not the KVM that is type-II), I think we cannot use the /*perf k*/*/vm/* command. Here are the outputs: -------- # perf kvm --host --guest record -C 1 sleep 1 [ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ] Warning: 1 unprocessable samples recorded. Do you have a KVM guest running and not using 'perf kvm'? [ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.242 MB perf.data.kvm ] As I said, this works for me for Xen guests. I thought perf kvm might check whether there is a KVM guest but it's not. The error message that you see is generated at the end of sampling if no samples are found. What Xen and Linux versions are you running (xl info)? Do you know whether performance counters are enabled (dmesg | grep Performance)? # perf kvm --guest --host report --stdio Warning: 1 unprocessable samples recorded. Do you have a KVM guest running and not using 'perf kvm'? Error: The perf.data.kvm file has no samples! # To display the perf.data header info, please use --header/--header-only options. # -------- In addition, we used perf to collect hardware performance counters, not the symbols, kernel functions, or other stuffs. Symbols are added to samples at the end --- perf doesn't collect them explicitly. Thus, what we really need is that we need to separate the hardware counters by each domain if it’s possible (i.e. we want to verify some counters are from Dom0, other counters are from Dom1, and the others come from Dom2, etc.) I’m pretty much sure that the code you used to distinguish each domain from samples will work. I wonder if you can agree with that. It does work. Note though that you will only be able distinguish dom0 from guests, i.e. all non-dom0 guests are presented by perf as a single guest, you won't be able to separate guest1 from guest2. I don't know whether this is perf kvm limitation or (more likely) something specific to perf kvm processing samples from Xen. I've never looked at that. -boris Best, Sanghyun. On Aug 29, 2016, at 6:37 PM, Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrov...@oracle.com<mailto:boris.ostrov...@oracle.com> <mailto:boris.ostrov...@oracle.com>> wrote: On 08/29/2016 05:48 PM, Sanghyun Hong wrote: I really appreciate for your answers. Last but not the least, I want to make it more clear: The hypervisor will provide dom0 with a raw sample (guest's, dom0's or hypervisor's) and then it's the job of dom0 kernel to properly tag and format it and make it available to the userland (i.e. perf itself). Does this mean if I run the perf command on Dom0 while other domains are running, we can collect the performance counter values without distinguishing each domain, right? With 'self' mode each domain collects samples only for itself. And for 'all' mode apparently this kind of works. With perf build from Linux 4.7 tree: root@haswell> xl vcpu-list Name ID VCPU CPU State Time(s) Affinity (Hard / Soft) Domain-0 0 0 0 -b- 55.0 0 / all Domain-0 0 1 1 r-- 35.9 1 / all Domain-0 0 2 2 -b- 36.9 2 / all Domain-0 0 3 3 -b- 36.2 3 / all fedora 1 0 1 -b- 183.7 1 / all root@haswell> ./perf kvm --guest --host --guestkallsyms=/tmp/kallsyms record -C 1 sleep 1 [ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ] [ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.139 MB perf.data.kvm (60 samples) ] root@haswell> ./perf kvm --guest --host --guestkallsyms=/tmp/kallsyms report --stdio ... # Overhead Command Shared Object Symbol # ........ ............... ....................... ............................................. # 14.48% swapper [unknown] [k] 0xffff82d0801c7a37 6.06% swapper [kernel.kallsyms] [k] update_blocked_averages 4.38% swapper [unknown] [k] 0xffff82d08013690f 2.75% swapper [kernel.kallsyms] [k] update_rq_clock 2.34% swapper [kernel.kallsyms] [k] irq_enter 2.33% [guest/0] [guest.kernel.kallsyms] [g] fb_pad_aligned_buffer 2.24% 1.hda-0 [kernel.kallsyms] [k] _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore 2.11% [guest/0] [guest.kernel.kallsyms] [g] native_safe_halt 2.05% [guest/0] [guest.kernel.kallsyms] [g] update_blocked_averages ... "unknown" samples are from hypervisor. The tool will then look at the tag and display the event as belonging to host (dom0, really) or guest. This is supported for KVM, with 'perf kvm' commands. So if you can run perf kvm commands then you may be able to differentiate dom0's and guest's samples (you will also see hypervisor samples but they won't get resolved to symbols). I am just not sure per kvm will run on a non-KVM host. I had a private copy where it did but this was based on a fairly old version of Linux. (Also, stack profiling is not supported at all). I wonder if you can share the private copy of your code. I’m looking into the source code of the patches, and it seems there’s a way to do it. Even if your codes are outdated, I think I can manage to port it. I will promise once I finish the porting, I will share my adjustment of your code as well. Looks like you may not need it. -boris Best, Sanghyun. On Aug 29, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrov...@oracle.com<mailto:boris.ostrov...@oracle.com> <mailto:boris.ostrov...@oracle.com>> wrote: On 08/29/2016 05:08 PM, Sanghyun Hong wrote: Yes, this will allow the hypervisor to collect samples from multiple guests. However, the tool (perf) probably won't be able to properly process these samples. But you can try. I understand, thus, I applied the patches and set the /pmu_mode/ to *all*. However, I’m really curious what you mean by the tool (*perf*) probably won’t be able to properly process these samples. Is there any things I have to have in mind while collecting the counters, or will it have incorrect values of the counters? The hypervisor will provide dom0 with a raw sample (guest's, dom0's or hypervisor's) and then it's the job of dom0 kernel to properly tag and format it and make it available to the userland (i.e. perf itself). The tool will then look at the tag and display the event as belonging to host (dom0, really) or guest. This is supported for KVM, with 'perf kvm' commands. So if you can run perf kvm commands then you may be able to differentiate dom0's and guest's samples (you will also see hypervisor samples but they won't get resolved to symbols). I am just not sure per kvm will run on a non-KVM host. I had a private copy where it did but this was based on a fairly old version of Linux. (Also, stack profiling is not supported at all). You will want to run dom0 on all physical processors (i.e. no dom0_max_vcpus boot option) and pin all VCPUs for both dom0 and the guest. Sure, thanks! My machine has four physical cores, and I’ve set the /dom0_max_vcpus=4/. I think it will have the same effect in removing the /dom0_max_vcpus/ option. Yes. -boris Best, Sanghyun. On Aug 29, 2016, at 4:59 PM, Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrov...@oracle.com<mailto:boris.ostrov...@oracle.com> <mailto:boris.ostrov...@oracle.com> <mailto:boris.ostrov...@oracle.com>> wrote: On 08/29/2016 02:42 PM, Sanghyun Hong wrote: Hi Boris, I’ve found the documentations(https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-hypervisor-pmu) in the kernel source code, and it seems like if we change the mode from *self* to *all* then we can collect counters for all the domains, right? Yes, this will allow the hypervisor to collect samples from multiple guests. However, the tool (perf) probably won't be able to properly process these samples. But you can try. You will want to run dom0 on all physical processors (i.e. no dom0_max_vcpus boot option) and pin all VCPUs for both dom0 and the guest. -boris All the best, Sanghyun. On Aug 29, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrov...@oracle.com<mailto:boris.ostrov...@oracle.com> <mailto:boris.ostrov...@oracle.com> <mailto:boris.ostrov...@oracle.com> <mailto:boris.ostrov...@oracle.com>> wrote: On 08/29/2016 09:18 AM, Sanghyun Hong wrote: Dear Xen-Devel Community: I’m a grad student working on measuring performance counters at the Xen domains. I read this thread(https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Profiling:_oprofile_and_perf) in web, and it says using Linux perf command will let us collecting performance counters in both dom0 and domU. Does it mean that we can collect both of them at once if we run perf command on the dom0? (If not, does it mean we can collect counters for each domain separately once we run the perf command in each domain? Profiling both guest and dom0 (and the hypervisor) requires changes to perf and those are not there yet. But you can run perf in each guest (including dom0) separately. Make sure you have vpmu=true boot option. -boris
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