On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 7:40 AM, Boris Ostrovsky
<boris.ostrov...@oracle.com> wrote:
> On 10/20/2016 10:11 AM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 20/10/16 14:55, Kyle Huey wrote:
>>>>> That said, rr currently does not work in Xen guests due to some PMU
>>>>> issues that we haven't tracked down yet.
>>>> Is this RR trying to use vPMU and it not functioning, or not
>>>> specifically trying to use PMU facilities and getting stuck anyway?
>>> The latter.  rr relies on the values returned by the PMU (the retired
>>> conditional branches counter in particular) being exactly the same
>>> during the recording and replay phases.  This is true when running on
>>> bare metal, and when running inside a KVM guest, but when running in a
>>> Xen HVM guest we see values that are off by a branch or two on a small
>>> fraction of our tests.  Since it works in KVM I suspect this is some
>>> sort of issue with how Xen multiplexes the real PMU and events are
>>> "leaking" between guests (or perhaps from Xen itself, though I don't
>>> think the Xen kernel executes any ring 3 code).  Even if that's
>>> correct we're a long way from tracking it down and patching it though.
>> Hmm.  That is unfortunate, and does point towards a bug in Xen.  Are
>> these tests which notice the problem easy to run?
>>
>> Boris (CC'd) is the maintainer of that code.  It has undergone quite a
>> few changes recently.
>
> I am actually not the maintainer, I just break this code more often than
> others.
>
> But yes, having a test case would make it much easier to understand what
> and why is not working.
>
> Would something like
>
>     wrmsr(PERFCTR,0);
>     wrmsr(EVNTSEL, XXX); //enable counter
>     // do something simple, with branches
>     wrmsr(EVTSEL,YYY); // disable counter
>
> demonstrate the problem? (I assume we are talking about HVM guest)
>
> -boris
>

That is a good question.  I'll see if I can reduce the problem down
from "run Linux and run our tests inside it".

- Kyle

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