On 05/12/2023 8:14 am, Bertrand Marquis wrote:
> Hi Julien,
>
> Thanks a lot for your review and comment, this is very helpful.
>
>> On 4 Dec 2023, at 20:24, Julien Grall <jul...@xen.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jens,
>>
>> On 04/12/2023 07:55, Jens Wiklander wrote:
>>> if ( ctx->rx )
>>> rxtx_unmap(ctx);
>>> +
>>> + list_for_each_entry_safe(shm, tmp, &ctx->shm_list, list)
>>> + {
>>> + register_t handle_hi;
>>> + register_t handle_lo;
>>> +
>>> + uint64_to_regpair(&handle_hi, &handle_lo, shm->handle);
>>> + res = ffa_mem_reclaim(handle_lo, handle_hi, 0);
>> Is this call expensive? If so, we may need to handle continuation here.
> This call should not be expensive in the normal case as memory is reclaimable
> so there is no processing required in the SP and all is done in the SPMC which
> should basically just return a yes or no depending on a state for the handle.
>
> So I think this is the best trade.
>
> @Jens: One thing to consider is that a Destroy might get a retry or busy
> answer and we
> will have to issue it again and this is not considered in the current
> implementation.
>
> After discussing the subject internally we could in fact consider that if an
> SP cannot release
> some memory shared with the VM destroyed, it should tell it by returning
> "retry" to the message.
> Here that could simplify things by doing a strategy where:
> - we retry on the VM_DESTROY message if required
> - if some memory is not reclaimable we check if we could park it and make the
> VM a zombie.
> What do you think ?
This is the cleanup issue discussed at XenSummit, isn't it?
You cannot feasibly implement this cleanup by having
ffa_domain_teardown() return -ERESTART.
Yes, it will probably function - but now you're now bouncing in/out of
Xen as fast as the CPU will allow, rechecking a condition which will
take an unbounded quantity of time. Meanwhile, you've tied up a
userspace thread (the invocation of `xl destroy`) to do so, and one of
dom0's vCPU for however long the scheduler is willing to schedule the
destroy invocation, which will be 100% of the time as it's always busy
in the hypervisor.
The teardown/kill infrastructure is intended and expected to always make
forward progress.
The closest thing to this patch which will work sanely is this:
Hold a single domain reference for any non-zero amount of magic memory
held. See domain_adjust_tot_pages() and how it interacts with
{get,put}_domain(), and copy it. Importantly, this prevents the domain
being freed until the final piece of magic memory has been released.
Have some way (can be early on the teardown/kill path, or a separate
hypercall - assuming the VM can't ever be scheduled again) to kick Xen
into being responsible for trying to reclaim the memory. (Start a
timer, or reclaim in the idle loop, whatever.)
This way, you can `xl destroy` a VM in an arbitrary state, *and* the
invocation will terminate when Xen has nothing deterministic left to do,
*and* in the case that the secure world or Xen has an issue, the VM will
stay around as a zombie holding minimal resources.
~Andrew
