On Sat, 12 Apr 2008, Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Klaas Gadeyne wrote:
> > >> I've noticed that threads which, in my ignorant opinion, are supposed
> > >> to be sleeping, get woken up much earlier than I expect them to be.
> > >>
> > >> Please find attached a modified version of the trivial-periodic.c
> > >> application, which creates a RT_TASK that should sleep as long as
> > >> possible (i.e. until unblocked by a signal handler).  However, the
> > >> task gets woken up much earlier (and many times) _before_ that time it
> > >> seems.
> > >>
> > >>  head /tmp/app.txt
> > >> current_time = 1207928393295939429
> > >> sleep until 18446744073709551615
> > >> [TIMERLOOP] Total errors = 1, return code = -110
> > >> current_time = 1207928393296000379
> > >> sleep until 18446744073709551615
> > >> [TIMERLOOP] Total errors = 2, return code = -110
> > >> current_time = 1207928393296005409
> > >> sleep until 18446744073709551615
> > >> [TIMERLOOP] Total errors = 3, return code = -110
> > >> current_time = 1207928393296009604
> > >>
> > >> What did I overlook here?
> > >
> > > Probably an overflow issue: (RTIME)~0 will be converted to TSCs, and if
> > > your box runs at > 1GHZ, the result of this conversion will by something
> > > < (RTIME)~0 due to the overflow. And this can result in an absolute
> > > timeout date (in TSC units) before the current date -> ETIMEDOUT. Can
> > > you confirm this?
> >
> > I have no linux box at hand, but I noticed that [*]
> > xntimer_do_start_aperiodic() passes its xnticks_t interval argument (which
> > is an unsigned long long) to xnarch_ns_to_tsc, and that one expects a
> > (signed) long long.
> >
> > If I did not make any calculation errors (a very small chance...) in "my"
> > case "interval" > LLONG_MAX so there's already an overflow there.
>
> The problem is that we can not change xnarch_ns_to_tsc to use
> xnarch_ullimd instead of xnarch_llimd: xnarch_ns_to_tsc may be used to
> convert negative differences. Anyway, I do not think there is an
> overflow in llimd, otherwise you would get a processor exception, not a
> silent truncation (at least on x86). To solve this issue, we should
> probably switch to saturation arithmetic, but it would probably have a
> huge impact on performance (and on code also, since we would have to use
> xnarch_saturated_add(foo, bar) instead of foo + bar).

I see.

I noticed that xnpod_suspend_thread offers the possibility to suspend
a thread "indefinitely" (until unblocked) via the (in the 2.4.x API,
that is)

xnpod_suspend_thread(thread,XNDELAY,XN_INFINITE,XN_RELATIVE,NULL)

call.
However, since TM_INFINITE (and XN_INFINITE) are both defined as being
zero, calls to rt_task_sleep(TM_INFINITE), are intercepted in the
implementation of rt_task_sleep [1].  So in the latter case (which I
would naively---i.e. without looking at API docs--- read as "sleep for
an infinite amount of time), rt_task_sleep() returns *immediately*.

Would it make sense to change the current behaviour of
rt_task_sleep(TM_INFINITE) and call
xnpod_suspend_thread(thread,XNDELAY,XN_INFINITE,XN_RELATIVE,NULL)
instead of returning 0?

One could either do that by
- altering rt_task_sleep()'s behaviour (not returning zero if delay is zero)
- redefining TM_INFINITE

Both changes might "break" existing applications however.

Any thoughts?

Klaas

[1] 
http://www.rts.uni-hannover.de/xenomai/lxr/source/ksrc/skins/native/task.c#921

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