On 2012-10-10 10:58, Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
> On 10/10/2012 10:10 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2012-10-10 10:04, Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2012 09:56 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> On 2012-10-10 09:51, Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
>>>>> On 10/10/2012 09:38 AM, Thierry Bultel wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Gilles,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>> The first patch does not work, the second does.
>>>>>> I think the reason for 1st patch why is that in rtcan_virt, we have
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rtdm_lock_get_irqsave(&rtcan_recv_list_lock, lock_ctx);
>>>>>> rtdm_lock_get(&rtcan_socket_lock);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> --->        rtcan_rcv(rx_dev, &skb);
>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rtdm_lock_put(&rtcan_socket_lock);
>>>>>> rtdm_lock_put_irqrestore(&rtcan_recv_list_lock, lock_ctx);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and rtcan_rcv->rtcan_rcv_deliver->rtdm_sem_up(&sock->recv_sem);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thus the same re-scheduling stuff with interrupts locked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you not not afraid of side effects with the second patch, 
>>>>>> since you change the overall behaviour ?
>>>>>> Won't you prefer a only locally modified rtcan_virt ?
>>>>>
>>>>> We should ask Jan's opinion. In any case, if we adopt the second patch,
>>>>> we might want to try and reduce the overhead of xnpod_unlock_sched.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We were signaling the semaphore while holding a spin lock? That's a
>>>> clear bug. Your patch is aligning rtcan to the pattern we are also using
>>>> in RTnet. We just need to make sure (haven't looked at the full context
>>>> yet) that sock remains valid even after dropping the lock(s).
>>>
>>> The second patch idea was to lock the scheduler while spinlocks are
>>> held, so that posting a semaphore while holding a spin lock is no longer
>>> a bug.
>>
>> Sounds a bit hacky,
> 
> Well, that is what the linux kernel does.
> 
>  but I think we have this pattern
>> (RTDM_EXECUTE_ATOMICALLY)
> 
> RTDM_EXECUTE_ATOMICALLY is a bit of a misnomer, if you do:
> RTDM_EXECUTE_ATOMICALLY(foo(); rtdm_sem_up(); bar());
> foo() and bar() are not executed atomically if sem_up wakes up another
> thread.
> 
> So, I do not see how RTDM_EXECUTE_ATOMICALLY solves the issue we are
> talking about.

RTDM_EXECUTE_ATOMICALLY holds the nucleus lock across the encapsulated
code, executing it atomically as rescheduling is postponed until the end
of the block.

Jan

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