Muller's edition: http://www.wilbourhall.org/index.html#veda
On 23 October 2010 18:55, Dominik Wujastyk <wujas...@gmail.com> wrote: > That was Prof. Max Muller (professor of Philology) and his critical edition > of the Rg Veda. :-) > > > On 23 October 2010 18:41, Gareth Hughes <garzoh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On the matter of declining skills in typesetting I'm reminded of an >> Oxford apocryphon of a printer who was preparing a Sanskrit grammar. The >> printer contacted the author, an esteemed professor, with a crucial >> error in the Sanskrit text. The professor first felt angry at being >> questioned on matters of Sanskrit by a printer, but verified the >> reported the error in his own copy. Returning to the printer he asked >> how he'd managed to spot the error. The printer replied that, after >> setting pages and pages in a script he could not read, he had learnt >> that one of them never follows one of them! Ah... attention to detail; >> they don't make them like that anymore! >> >> Gareth. >> >> John Was wrote: >> > Well I'm still in the Press once a week at least (for choir practice!) >> > so I shall make sure these comments reach the right ears. They >> > correspond, unfortunately to my own impression. Leofranc >> > Holford-Strevens works heroically on critical editions but he is the >> > sole in-house editor left and can't possibly handle them all. I think >> > he is pretty well full-time on large projects with extensive commentary >> > (and still finds time to publish and lecture extensively on an >> > astonishing range of topics). >> > >> > Getting back to TeX-related matters, the hyphenation patterns available >> > in XeTeX (even to 'plain' users like myself) are an enormous help, even >> > if I disagree with the English at frequent points (the Latin rarely lets >> > me down, aside from a few rogues - is hucusque one? - which I guess are >> > analagous to Knuth's 'manuscript' in refusing to comply with the >> > algorithms). No one bothers to read people like Priscian on what should >> > be done with Greek and Latin, and no one at OUP involved in passing >> > proofs would have the faintest idea about this subject. Neither, alas, >> > do authors - with the Dictionary of Medieval Latin (which I have just >> > relinquished with completion of Fascicule XIII in the middle of letter >> > 'R') it was left entirely to me, and I fear that laxity in this matter >> > will pervade future fascicules as it did in some of those that preceded >> > my involvement. When I asked the compilers to keep a look-out for any >> > bad hyphenations that I might have missed in perusing and correcting the >> > proofs, they asked me to explain the rules! >> > >> > John >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: <jherr...@allegheny.edu> >> > To: <xetex@tug.org> >> > Sent: 23 October 2010 15:05 >> > Subject: Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly >> > community >> > >> > >> >> Yes, as you would guess, the copy-editor marked up my files by hand >> >> and sent me the hard copy. >> >> >> >> Recent OUP critical editions in Greek prose could use a lot more >> >> copy-editing; I would assert that their production standards in this >> >> area have fallen drastically in the last decade. We have new editions >> >> of the Greek orators Demosthenes and Lysias in the Oxford Classical >> >> Text series, all filled with rampant flaws in hyphenation and line >> >> numbering in the apparatus. Reviews have also identified numerous >> >> slips of a more substantial nature, that seem to suggest very little >> >> copy-editing is happening on these in house. It seems that OUP has >> >> adopted new modes of production for these critical editions that >> >> create these problems, and authors (and copy-editors?) don't regularly >> >> take the time to fix it all. I know in the case of my book the >> >> copy-editor, who was otherwise very attentive, didn't seem to have >> >> looked at the Greek at all. >> >> >> >> The other major series of critical texts in Greek (and Latin), on the >> >> other hand, the Bibliotheca Teubneriana, has been shuffled from one >> >> publisher to another in the last decade. It's now in the hands of De >> >> Gruyter, who seems devoted to its revitalization. They're requiring >> >> all editors to submit camera-ready-copy, and recommending that they >> >> use Critical Edition Typesetter (<http://www.karas.ch/cet/>). I have >> >> the impression they only really care about the appearance of the CRC, >> >> though, and wouldn't really care if authors prefer other typesetting >> >> systems. >> >> >> >> Jud Herrman >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2010-10-23, John Was >> >> <john....@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >>> OUP will normally be amenable if saving money is in prospect! I >> >>> think the >> >>> barrier here has always been the copy-editing process (now more >> >>> vulnerable >> >>> since house style is not seen as so important and indeed there is no >> >>> longer >> >>> any copy-editing department at OUP). A critical edition will normally >> >>> require a rather small amount of copy-editing, though there is still >> the >> >>> introduction and commentary to consider - but if a TeX-savvy author is >> >>> willing to implement those copy-editing changes and suggestions s/he >> >>> agrees >> >>> with, there is no real difficulty. The copy-editor would then >> >>> presumably >> >>> work by pen(cil) on a draft PDF printout in the traditional way (or by >> >>> annotating the PDF electronically, which can be tedious). >> >>> >> >>> Or of course one can simply trust the author not to make any mistakes >> at >> >>> all, and forgo copy-editing. Even twenty years ago this was >> >>> mentioned as a >> >>> possibility at OUP but no one dared to do it in my time there. >> >>> >> >>> But I hope this doesn't become too much of a trend or I'll have to >> >>> look for >> >>> something else to do! In the meantime, I must dust down my old brown >> >>> OCT of >> >>> Hyperides... >> >>> >> >>> John >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: >> http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex >> > >
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