On 12/6/18 5:11 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
On 11/6/18 7:15 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
Hi All,


Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The
last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit.



Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  This is
my list of new bugs I reported


It really did. This many glitches and bugs I would expect and live with on rawhide, but not a stable release. It's also not something I could expose my family to.

Thanks for all the fish, XFCE was a frienly and rock solid safe harbour from the "modern UI" madness for several years but the decision to push a development version to all users has made it unusable here. Fortunately there are more alternatives these days.

     - Panu -

Hi Panu,

I do adore Xfce as I can not stand "OS as Playground". The OS
should just get ot of my way and run my programs.  I do not care
what the latest picture on the web are.  And if I am in the mood
for something multimedia, I will fire up that program and exit
it when I am done with it.  Xfce excels at this.

Since I am a computer tech, I just work around all the issues
with Fedora29 and Xfce 4.13.  But when I am dealing with
customers, I still use Fedora 28 and Xfce 4.12.

I am a bit surprised at all the bugs in 4.13. I think it
is the buggiest release I have seen.

You can always check out Mate.  It is also simple.    But I
will stick with Xfce as I have configured a lot of stuff
in Panel 1.

-T

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