Thanks for the gtf tip.  It led to more progress...

It now seems like X believes me that my display is 1440x900, and knows how to use that 
display.

However, for some reason it's was then imposing a virtual display size of 1440x960, 
not 1440x900, on me.

I went into my config file and made these changes:

1. I commented out all my Screen-->Display-->Modes entries other than "1440x900"

2. I commented out all of my Monitor-->ModeLine entries, as they seemed to be 
describing hardware I don't have.

When I restarted X, I finally have pefect behavior using 1440x900 mode.

Thanks!!!

PS - Any idea why it would have been giving me a virtual size of 1440x960?

- Christian

> 
> From: Mark Vojkovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/07/13 Sun AM 12:41:53 EDT
> To: Christian Convey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Re: [XFree86] semi-newbie: nVidia Go5200 FX trouble on Toshiba
>  laptop
> 
> 
>    You need a custom modeline since there's not a 1440x900 mode
> built into the server.  You can use the "gtf" utility that comes
> with XFree86 4.3 to generate modelines.  Eg:
> 
> # 1440x900 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 55.92 kHz; pclk: 106.47 MHz
> Modeline "1440x900"  106.47  1440 1520 1672 1904  900 901 904 932  -HSync +Vsync
> 
> 
>                       Mark.
> 
> 
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Christian Convey wrote:
> 
> > I did what you suggesed (adding the CrtcMonitor 1 option), and low and behold, X 
> > and KDE come up as well as they did using the vesa driver.
> > 
> > OK - I've made some more progress.  I had bad info on the LCD's resolution.  It's 
> > best is 1440x900, not 1400x1050.  I think this explains why I was getting the 
> > problems with the virtual desktop being too tall.
> > 
> > So I did a global search and replace in my XF86Config-4 file, replacing 
> > "1400x1050" with "1440x900", and restarted X.  The result:
> > 
> > I got kicked into 1280x1024 mode.  In my log file, I have a line:
> > 
> > (II) NV(0): Not using mode "1440x900" (no mode of this name)
> > 
> > Can I assume this means that I'll have to add a ModeLine to my Monitor section?
> > 
> > If so, where on earth would I get the settings (or information on how to calculate 
> > them) for this display?
> > 
> > (BTW, I am using Xfree86 4.3. When I checked the website, it sounds like they're 
> > only at veresion 4.3.0.1.  You think the difference between that stuff and what 
> > I've got will make a difference?)
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Christian
> > 
> > > 
> > > From: Mark Vojkovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 2003/07/12 Sat PM 11:57:58 EDT
> > > To: Christian Convey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [XFree86] semi-newbie: nVidia Go5200 FX trouble on Toshiba
> > >  laptop
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Try adding:
> > > 
> > > Option "CrtcNumber" "1"
> > > 
> > >    It's using CRTC zero and that's probably not correct for that laptop.
> > > You should be able to get it to work in XFree86 4.3, it just might
> > > take some Options like above.  It should autodetect much better in
> > > XFree86 from CVS.
> > > 
> > >                   Mark.
> > >    
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 12 Jul 2003, Christian Convey wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hey Mark,
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the help.
> > > > 
> > > > I added the Option "FlatPanel" item to my XF86Config-4 file, because it had in 
> > > > fact been missing.
> > > > 
> > > > When I restarted X, I saw no improvement.  In fact, I got something a little 
> > > > worse:  In my text-mode consolse now (i.e., ctrl+alt+F1), the last row of text 
> > > > runs off the bottom of the display a little.
> > > > 
> > > > Anyway, I've attaced my log file and XF86Config-4 file, if you're interested 
> > > > in taking a look.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks again for all the help - I really appreciate it.
> > > > 
> > > > - Christian
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: Mark Vojkovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Date: 2003/07/12 Sat PM 10:54:31 EDT
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [XFree86] semi-newbie: nVidia Go5200 FX trouble on Toshiba 
> > > > > laptop
> > > > > 
> > > > >    The "vesa" driver is limited to whatever modes the bios
> > > > > supports.  I'd like to see the /var/log/XFree86.0.log from
> > > > > a run with the "nv" driver that comes up with a black screen.
> > > > > 
> > > > >    Relevant options for that driver would be:
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Option "FlatPanel"
> > > > > 
> > > > > in case it didn't autodetect that.  And maybe 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Option "CrtcNumber" "0"
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think it defaults to CrtcNumber 1 on the laptops which was supposed
> > > > > to be correct as far as I know, but maybe this one is different.
> > > > > 
> > > > >                       Mark.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sat, 12 Jul 2003, Christian Convey wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks for the advice.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > When I try the "nv" driver, X doesn't come up at all.  Well, it may come 
> > > > > > up, but I get a totally black screen.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > At least with "vesa", I can get further, to the situation where the only 
> > > > > > problem is that the bottom of the screen runs off my display.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Any suggestions?  (I'd like to RTFM on this, but to be honest I can't 
> > > > > > find good documentation regarding this kind of problem.)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > BTW, is there some terminology I should be using to describe my 
> > > > > > particular problem?  (The problem that X is placing a few inches of my 
> > > > > > desktop below the bottom edge of my display.)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Christian
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Mark Vojkovich wrote:
> > > > > > >    You'll want to use XFree86 4.3 and the "nv" driver that comes
> > > > > > > with it.  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                   Mark.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Christian Convey wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >>Hi guys,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>I'm having some trouble getting screen resolutions working right, and 
> > > > > > >>would appreciate *any* pointers.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>I just bought a new Toshiba P25, with a gorgeous 17" screen that's 
> > > > > > >>native at 1400 x 1050.  It comes with at GeForce 5200 FX chip and 32 MB 
> > > > > > >>of video memory.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>When I installed Mandrake 9.1, I chose a screen resolution of 1400 x 
> > > > > > >>1050, and to use the "vesa" driver.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>When I actually got the laptop into X however, I get a funky problem: 
> > > > > > >>The virtual size of the screen appears to be a little taller than what's 
> > > > > > >>actually displayed.  That is, in KDE, the taskbar that's on the bottom 
> > > > > > >>doesn't appear, but I can move the cursor a little south of the bottom 
> > > > > > >>of the screen and interact with that tasklbar.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>I see some lines in /var/log/XFree86.0.log that are worrying, but I 
> > > > > > >>don't know what to do with them:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>...
> > > > > > >>(II) VESA(0): Not using mode "1400x1050" (no mode of this name)
> > > > > > >>(II) VESA(0): Not using mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name)
> > > > > > >>(II) VESA(0): Not using mode "800x600" (no mode of this name)
> > > > > > >>(--) VESA(0): Virtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 1280)
> > > > > > >>...
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Thanks tons,
> > > > > > >>Christian
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
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