Hmmm that was the direction I was looking for...

I like Zope's ideas, but I'm not entirely convinced about some
implementation choices.  

So I saw DBXML as a good object repository where the objects data can be
serialized as XML and I was looking to avoid using Java as the programming
language as it can be quite heavyweight at times. So XSLT seemed nearly
pefect.  The main trouble with XSLT you only realise if you try to program
with it. It totally goes against the grain for a programmer, being very
verbose and unsuitable for general purpose programming.  However it's way of
working with XML is elegant.

So logically I just wrote a simple scripting language which produces XSL
with some use of extensions. It is a prototype at the moment as it only
handles a small subset of XSLT however the power of XSLT starts to show
through when you remove the bulky syntax.

I'm looking at taking it much further with Xalan specific features and
glancing at the Cocoon/Xindice partnership possibilities it could be taken
further into this area, I'll see.

Thanks Clark for your input .... ideas begin to clarify a little ... so I
need to look at Cocoon now :-)

Many regards
Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clark OBrien [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 27 February 2002 15:26
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:      RE: XML application server
> 
> 
> 
> Stefano Mazzocchi suggests XIndice may soon be integrated with cocoon-
> apologies
> if everyone already knows this.
> 
> 
> From the Zope-dev list:
> Setfano:
> We haven't packaged XIndice with Cocoon yet, because current version of
> XIndice is CORBA based and adds another 2/3 Mbs that might not be
> worth-it for now.
> 
> At the same time: we are workign closely with the XIndice community to
> make sure that future versions of XIndice are Soap/XML-RPC based
> (instead of CORBA, which also has several encoding interoperability
> problems with most ORBs), thus much lighter and we'll probably ship that
> integrated.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ellis, Neil (FNB) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 1:43 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: XML application server
> 
> 
> Thanks Kimbro I will take a look.
> 
> 
> Many regards
> Neil
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Kimbro Staken [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:       26 February 2002 16:20
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:    Re: XML application server
> > 
> > You could look at the combination of Tomcat/Cocoon/Xindice as such a
> > beast.
> >   Cocoon has some built in connectivity for Xindice.
> > 
> > On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 02:51 AM, Ellis, Neil (FNB) wrote:
> > 
> > > Dear All
> > >
> > > I've been considering the idea of building an
> > XML/XSLT/XUpdate/XPath/Java
> > > based application server using Xindice as the base.
> > >
> > > This is because I have  been working on a scripting language which
> > > translates itself to the less human readable form of XSLT and would
> like
> > 
> > > to
> > > take it a bit further and incorporate XUpdate and XPath database
> > searches 
> > > as
> > > native to the language.
> > >
> > > To do this I then need to build an application server to execute the 
> > > objects
> > > built from the language. I don't want to do anything fancy really, I
> was
> > > intending to use Xindice as the base and make maximum use of the
> > fantastic
> > > functionality with it.
> > >
> > > Now the question I'd like to ask is ... has anyone started down these 
> > > lines
> > > yet ..
> > >
> > > Many regards
> > > Neil Ellis
> > >
> > >
> > Kimbro Staken - http://www.kstaken.org - http://www.xmldatabases.org
> > Apache Xindice native XML database http://xml.apache.org/xindice
> > XML:DB Initiative http://www.xmldb.org
> > Senior Technologist (Your company name here)

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