IT worked(tm)! I have an xMach system running right now. Unforunately my nic isn't supported (yet) so I can't let you all pingflood it yet, but it IS there, and it works for the most part. I (luckily) have a OpenBSD boot CD so I can always reboot into that, and use it to copy files and such, since it DOES support my nic. # uname -a xMach myname.my.domain Lites.1.1.u3 Lites.1.1.u3 STD+ext2fs+slice+mach4+DEBUG i386 I just compiled and ran a hello world. Wheeeeeee. So everyone should follow JStevens' NEtBSD 1.1 directions... I made my way up as I went along, but it's almost EXACTLY like his. Note that I had some trouble with a few things (okay, with mknod, but I hax0red the gibson and made that work). -- [ Joseph Mallett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] [ http://srcsys.org ] [ xMach Core Team xMach: Proactively Unbloated Microkernel BSD ] [ Proud {Free,Net}BSD User; (Obj)C(++) Programmer ] [ http://xMach.org ]