Hallo Davide,
Am Sonntag, 12. Mai 2002 um 22:33 schriebst du: > On Sun, 12 May 2002, Trish Lynch wrote: >> >> On Sun, 12 May 2002, JT wrote: >> >> > >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> > Hash: SHA1 >> > >> > On Sun, 12 May 2002, Davide Libenzi wrote: >> > > > the "From " line comes from an envelope, and comes from MAIL FROM: SMTP >> > > > transaction, RFC822 referes to the Content or Body of the mail, and the >> > > > headers that belong in there, those are messages passed through after the >> > > > SMTP handshake. >> > > > >> > > > I can add to RFC822 Headers. >> > > >> > > it does not matter a freakin' a** from where the hell it comes from. yes >> > > you can add to RFC822 headers but you have to respect the the RFC. this >> > > is a valid header : >> > >> > David, take a chill. >> > >> > We aren't debating what you seem to think we are debating. No-one is >> > claiming that the MTA is responsible for transmitting a textual line of >> > the form 'From [EMAIL PROTECTED]' between MTAs. >> > >> > What we are stating is that it is the MTA's responsibility to add this >> > SMTP envelope line to the message before it is handed to the local >> > delivery agent, like is done under all current MTAs with the seeming >> > exception of Xmail. When it talks to another MTA (ie, in the case of >> > MTA->MTA forwarding), this line gets preserved via the SMTP Mail From >> > command and thus has no need of being transmitted seperately. >> > >> > - --JT >> > >> >> Exactly! this is formed by the MTA by the "MAIL FROM:" in the SMTP >> transaction and is not transmitted in the form of RFC822 Headers, it is, >> in fact, generally a "by product" of the SMTP or UUCP transaction (and I >> suppose that its existence is largely legacy UUCP, and probably there for >> historical reasons). >> >> THe "From " line is described in UUCP RFCs and surprisingly still formed >> by most UNIX MTAs. Sendmail, Exim, and Postfix being the particular ones. >> >> It seems to be formed as it decides that the address is at its "final >> destination" and hands it off to the local mailer. mail.local and procmail >> both do not form this "header", the MTA does prior to that. >> >> Now in the case of ecartis, its passed this mail, to be processed, and it >> already has the "From " line on it. It then takes what it is handed, raw, >> and puts in in the "archive" which is simply the mail as it is handed to >> Ecartis from the MTA via alias. and Ecartis keeps appending to this box >> for each list, therefore creating an "mbox" with the proper format. >> >> I also see nothing that *requires* it to be there, just that its generally >> "best practices" (as assumed by the existence of it in three widely >> used UNIX MTAs) and isn;t considered an RFC822 header, but an "Envelope" >> header and part of the record of the transaction that occured via SMTP. > Sendmail, Exim, and Postfix add the "From ..." line ( not "From: ...", > that is different ) when they deliver to mbox'es. that's why they put such > line. it's final delivery. in such case the message stream is ready to > be appended to the mbox w/out any changes. and now i understand why > ecartis chokes. XMail does not add the "From ..." line because it does not > deliver to mbox'es. XMail keeps the real sender ( MAIL FROM:<...> ) and > other informations at the top of the message ( XMail header ) and if > ecartis really needs the "From ..." line, it must be build by slightly > changing the econv.c program ( http://www.xmailserver.org/econv.c ). This is one option, another one would be to add some lines to Ecartis in src/internal.c where is checked for the 'From ' topline and if it is not found it falls back to the 'From:'. As well as falling back Ecartis could add the topline here itself. Well, changing econv.c would be nice too. I suggested this already. I can do this if you don't want to do it yourself. Would you accept a patch for econv.c? Gerrit -- =^..^= -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
