I just have to get in on this discussion. As I agree and disagree with 
some comments from others.

I run an internet service with about 1000 users. I have my email 
posted all over my web site so that my customers, and potential new 
business can reach me. I have to be VERY careful on who I blacklist 
for spam. I can just start putting in ip ranges or domains names. As 
an ISP, I know that every once in a blue moon somebody pulls a fast 
one on me and signs up for my service and sends out about a good 50 to 
60 thousand messages. Now I don't want my domain name or IP ranges 
blacklisted beacause of this on guy.

I am currenty running red hat using sendmail and qpopper. I want to 
swith to xmail for easier for two major reasons: 1) I will be on 
windows, which is where this particular application should be, and 2) 
I can easier implement virus protection. Unfortunately, there is one 
major thing holding me back, SPAMASSASSIN. This program works like a 
dream to fight spam. I normally get about 70 to 80 Spams a day, but 
with SpamAssassin, this is cust down to about 2 or 3.

For those of you that aren't familiar with it, SpamAssassin works on a 
ranking system and performs a number of checks on incoming mail, based 
on the score, it can determine whether a message is spam. It works 
VERY WELL. The only problem, it has not been ported to windows.

I here that DeerSoft has ported this to windows but only for the 
client side and not the server. I guess I may just have to bite the 
bullet and go to which is more important, and right now that is Virus 
Filtering.

Any comments anyone, or any other windows spam solutions.


-- 
Jeff Jarchow
QCI Internet
http://www.qcinet.net/

> 
> Does anyone know of a spam blacklist that lists domains/servers 
rather 
> than IP ranges? I think that while it may be a bit less effective, 
it 
> will lower the amout of complaints all in all.
> 
> Oh, and can XMail interface with such lists?
> 
> Henrik Steffen wrote:
> 
> >Dear Peter,
> >
> >this is of course exactly my opinion. But talking about the -
> >in German so-called "DAU" (dümmster anzunehmender User - most stupid
> >user one can imagine) the DAU will in 98 % of the cases contact US,
> >because OUR email-address doesn't work, and still for the DAU most 
of the other
> >addresses world-wide work. So they think it's our fault - and it's 
quite
> >hard to convince them that it's the fault of THEIR provider and 
they'll have
> >to contact him instead.
> >
> >Mit freundlichem Gruß
> >
> >Henrik Steffen
> >Geschäftsführer
> >
> >top concepts Internetmarketing GmbH
> >Am Steinkamp 7 - D-21684 Stade - Germany
> >--------------------------------------------------------
> >http://www.topconcepts.com          Tel. +49 4141 991230
> >mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]       Fax. +49 4141 991233
> >--------------------------------------------------------
> >24h-Support Hotline:  +49 1908 34697 (EUR 1.86/Min,topc)
> >--------------------------------------------------------
> >System-Partner gesucht: http://www.franchise.city-map.de
> >--------------------------------------------------------
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> >--------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Peter Lindeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:15 PM
> >Subject: [xmail] Re: Using SpamCop
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Henrik Steffen wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>and yes: we do still have complaints from people that can't send 
mail
> >>>to us, or even worse: to our customers. We are hosting about 2.000
> >>>mail-domains on our mailserver.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Well I think it is very simply. If a person can't mail he/she 
should
> >>complain at their provider. They screwed up so they should fix the
> >>troubles. This is the only way to fight spam. The more people use 
it
> >>this way the earlier spam belongs to the past.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Groeten,
> >>Peter
> >>
> >>--
> >>Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... till you can find 
a rock.
> >>
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