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From: "Niklas Wikman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: saltstorm.xmail
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 12:33 AM
Subject: [xmail] SV: Re: SV: Re: BCware NoSPAM SMTP Proxy Daemon


> OK, I just tested the proxy solution... and Bang! I had an open relay :-(
> I'll try this "scoop" thing tomorrow, thanx Thomas!

scope that is, give it a try. In case of any Qs I am just around the corner.

/thomas - Göteborg


> /Niklas
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> Ã"mne: [xmail] Re: SV: Re: BCware NoSPAM SMTP Proxy Daemon
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>
> Christian,
>
> >
> > Hello Newsmirror,
> >
> >         Do you have any opinion about the workload on a NT when using
> >         the spamassassin perl modules instead of the binary?
> >
> >         I am thinking: the binarys must make the spam handling rather
> >         fast but if i use the NT perl module i will probably notice
> >         the diffrence in workload at some point...
>
> the binaries in Spamassassin context refers to the SPAMC/SPAMD frontend
> supplied with the SA dist. The actual SA scanning engine is a vanilla perl module.
>
> SPAMD sits in the background with wrapped perl interpreter and forks
> off children for each message passed in by SPAMC (client). Messages (I believe)
> are passed via STDIN. SPAMD keeps SA in-core as perl bytecode.
>
> The scope setup.
> scope daemon (scoped) sits in the background listening for socket connections.
> scoped is written in perl aswell as SA (or any other scope procedure)
> and are all running within the same process. Scoped keeps SA in-core as perl 
>bytecode.
> Scope clients (a 4kb Win32 binary) are forked by XMail (as filters/mailprocs)
> and passes the message by *file reference* to scoped which carries out the
> requested procedure.
>
>
> as you can see, basically the client/server concepts are the same, with
> the exception that scope communicates over sockets and passes messages
> as file reference rather than over STDIN (which is a real performance hog
> under Win32). Both are using persistent perl interpreters and caches
> bytecode for fast reuse.
>
> SPAMD works in conjunction with the OS userbase and allows many per
> user setting and load configuration files + spam thresholds on a per request
> basis. (perf hog)
>
> Scope::spamassassin runs slurps in a global configuration at start up, but
> acknowledges per user spam thresholds (from Xmail user.tab settings or Mysql (in 
>1.20+))
>
>
> So, concluding I would say my initial tests showed that Scope::spamassassin is 
>somewhat
> faster than the native SPAMD, this mostly due to the per user configuration
> parsing. scanning-wise it is your CPU that'll dictate the performance.
> SPAMD is as far I know not an option in a Win32 environment, due to compiling issues.
>
>
>
>
> >         Have anyone tested? Could it do maybe 200 spams per minute? I
> >         am just not sure about the performance i can espect...
>
> Maybe you could achieve that sort of numbers with a hotted p4.
> I remember doing some SA performance tests back in October and got it to scan 
>something
> like ~35 messages/min tops (standard size ~7kb) on a Win2k/Duron 1000.
>
> However, looking at the stats I posted in my previous message shows 26388 requests
> handled in 6:38 hours = 398 min. That is about 66 message/min on average assuming
> all were parsed, which isn't the real thruth really since scoped will decline
> duplicate processing and messages larger that N kb. (N = 256kb in my setup).
> the stats btw, are taken from a scope/XMail setup running on a NT4/P-Pro 200Mhz
>
>
>
> /thomas.
>
>
> >         Br, Christian Otrel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >         
>===================================================================================
> >
> >
> > >> On Windows? I found some information, but it looked like a two day job to fix 
>the scripts :-(
> > >>
> > >> http://www.openhandhome.com/howtosa.html
> >
> > N> I suggest you check out Scope, it might do what you want. Scope comes with a
> > N> procedure gluing a daemonized SpamAssassin with XMail filters on Win32 aswell
> > N> as Linux/*bsd. Scope only uses the perl parts of SA (available via CPAN),
> > N> the core, and thus the SPAMC/SPAMD parts (which are the troublesome parts
> > N> on Win32 environments) gets obsolete.
> >
> > N> I have run SA 2.43 hosted by Scope over here on a XMail/NT4 box for 4½ months
> > N> by now, works great. Snapshot of the current req stats follows:
> >
> > N>  [Request Statistics] (since server startup, 2002-10-09 10:09:14)
> > N> ---------------------Requests-------Errors--------CPU Load------------------
> > N>  spamassassin      26388 (24.76%)     0 ( 0.00%)  06:38:11:208 (53.18%)
> > N>  nntpfwd           21062 (19.76%)     0 ( 0.00%)  04:04:33:719 (32.66%)
> > N>  h2t               20894 (19.60%)     0 ( 0.00%)  00:41:19:326 ( 5.52%)
> > N>  noop              19237 (18.05%)     0 ( 0.00%)  00:09:23:401 ( 1.25%)
> > N>  vanguard          17036 (15.98%)     0 ( 0.00%)  00:46:20:151 ( 6.19%)
> > N>  demime             1726 ( 1.62%)     0 ( 0.00%)  00:08:20:440 ( 1.11%)
> > N>  status               45 ( 0.04%)     2 ( 4.44%)  00:00:11:244 ( 0.03%)
> > N> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > N>  -Server Total-   106590    -         2 ( 0.00%)  12:28:46:107    -
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