Just read through a lengthy discussion on another list about this very
feature which was just implimented on the other MTA I use as a spam
prevention. Some points broght up are that it can never be trusted as a
true yes or no, both have false positive potential, and that repeated
sessions of this type from your MTA may end up being treated as a low
impact dictionary attack against the remote MTA, casusing your server to
be blacklisted.  If you saw multiple dataless sessions from a remote MTA
to invalid and valid accounts, what would you think they were doing?

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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On Behalf Of Leonardo Cabral
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:55 AM
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Subject: [xmail] Re: Faked MAIL FROM



Davide Libenzi wrote:
>
> XMail will try to get MX for bbb.comand it'll fail the message will be
> rejected (obviously if bbb.com is not local). Then XMail will connect
> to port 25 of the MX record and :
>
> HELO xxx
> MAIL FROM:<>
> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> QUIT
>
> If the response of the RCP is a failure, the account aaa does not
> exist on the bbb.com domain and hence it is faked.
>
>
>
> - Davide
Well, Davide, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to implement this because
many server can be configured to never say that a user does not exist,
and
others like antivir mail gate always accepts mails for a domain as they
are
just "wrappers" for that domain. As you know the VRFY command is
optional in
many servers (with optional I mean that if it's implemented it can also
be
deactivated by configuration) for security reasons. Well, saying that a
mailbox exists or not after receiving the "RCPT TO:" parameter has the
same
effect of using VRFY.
There will be even problems with domains with misconfigured MX records.
So, it maybe will be a waste of time implementing and using this
function.
Don't you agree?

Leonardo Cabral

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