There is something weird there,
I did a DIG for:

is.co.za ns
staffmail.is.co.za ns
staffmail.is.co.za mx

And found that there are NS for staffmail.is.co.za, but not when you ask for
NS records, I got them when asking for MX records.
Very odd, I'd suggest he can't mail the list because Davide has some
verification of Lame DNS configs.
It is quite likely that as "staffmail" is a subdomain, it has not been
correctly setup.

Rob :-)

>dig @jupiter.is.co.za. is.co.za ns

; <<>> DiG 9.2.3 <<>> @jupiter.is.co.za. is.co.za ns
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;is.co.za.                      IN      NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
is.co.za.               86400   IN      NS      demeter.is.co.za.
is.co.za.               86400   IN      NS      titan.is.co.za.
is.co.za.               86400   IN      NS      hera.is.co.za.
is.co.za.               86400   IN      NS      jupiter.is.co.za.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
demeter.is.co.za.       86400   IN      A       196.26.5.8
titan.is.co.za.         86400   IN      A       196.33.171.36
hera.is.co.za.          86400   IN      A       168.210.248.3
jupiter.is.co.za.       86400   IN      A       196.4.160.3

;; Query time: 687 msec
;; SERVER: 196.4.160.3#53(jupiter.is.co.za.)
;; WHEN: Thu Mar 16 11:35:58 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 173
 

>dig @jupiter.is.co.za. staffmail.is.co.za ns

; <<>> DiG 9.2.3 <<>> @jupiter.is.co.za. staffmail.is.co.za ns
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;staffmail.is.co.za.            IN      NS

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
is.co.za.               86400   IN      SOA     ns1.is.co.za.
dns-admin.is.co.za
.. 2006031400 28800 7200 604800 86400

;; Query time: 625 msec
;; SERVER: 196.4.160.3#53(jupiter.is.co.za.)
;; WHEN: Thu Mar 16 11:35:27 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 86


>dig @jupiter.is.co.za. staffmail.is.co.za mx

; <<>> DiG 9.2.3 <<>> @jupiter.is.co.za. staffmail.is.co.za mx
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 5

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;staffmail.is.co.za.            IN      MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
staffmail.is.co.za.     86400   IN      MX      100 mailbox.is.co.za.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
is.co.za.               86400   IN      NS      jupiter.is.co.za.
is.co.za.               86400   IN      NS      demeter.is.co.za.
is.co.za.               86400   IN      NS      titan.is.co.za.
is.co.za.               86400   IN      NS      hera.is.co.za.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
mailbox.is.co.za.       86400   IN      A       196.35.45.20
jupiter.is.co.za.       86400   IN      A       196.4.160.3
demeter.is.co.za.       86400   IN      A       196.26.5.8
titan.is.co.za.         86400   IN      A       196.33.171.36
hera.is.co.za.          86400   IN      A       168.210.248.3

;; Query time: 640 msec
;; SERVER: 196.4.160.3#53(jupiter.is.co.za.)
;; WHEN: Thu Mar 16 11:35:07 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 223



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Lord
Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2006 2:46 AM
To: xmail@xmailserver.org
Cc: Jorn Hass
Subject: [xmail] Unable to mail to list

On 15 Mar 2006, at 15:06, Jorn Hass wrote:

Hi

Had a mail from Jorn Hass (jornh_at_staffmail.is.co.za) this morning as he's
not been able to get mail into the list since Feb 22. 

All I can see is that there doesn't seem to be an NS for staffmail.is.co.za
nor any A record although there is an MX pointing to maibox.is.co.za.

Other possibility is that filters are dropping his mails which I believe are
being accepted by the server.

Any ideas? 

> Hello David,
> 
> Thanks for the reply. Everything worked fine up till the 22nd, and 
> nothing has changed on the DNS side. (I know, as my team manages the 
> is.co.za zonefile... :) All of my mails are accepted by the 
> xmailserver.org, but it seems as if they get discarded internally, 
> without any notification?
> 
> If it was a SORBS blacklisting, I would see that on the logs, but it 
> doesn't show.
> 
> As to the "no A record", that is only used for legacy mailers, that do 
> not understand MX records, which I do not think is the issue here, as 
> it has always worked... We always ensure that all our mail servers 
> only accepts from valid domains, and I'm not seeing this issue 
> anywhere else that I send to, using our setups...
> 
> I have a hunch that one of Davide's filters is being overzealous, and 
> dropping my e-mails. Maybe even Ecartis itself. Almost like I got 
> black-holed, yet I cannot see why.
> 
> Can you possibly just pass my query on to Davide, for him to check 
> please?


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