CLEMENT Francis wrote:
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Henri van Riel
>> Envoy=E9 : lundi 26 f=E9vrier 2007 20:16
>> =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org
>> Objet : [xmail] Re: Small GLST bug maybe?
>>
>>     
> ....
>   
>>> Are you sure your server or connexion is not too busy ?
>>>       
>> I noticed the odd delay too. Funny thing is, your email (the one I am
>> replying to now took 2 and a half minutes to be delivered to my
>> mailbox but I am still waiting on the email you replied to, which I
>> sent this morning 9 am! Obviously it was delivered to the rest of the
>> list (since you replied to it) but it hasn't arrived here yet.
>>
>> So where is it? I'll know when I get it I suppose. Funny your email
>> travels without delay while others seem to get "stuck" somewhere.
>>
>> Btw, AFAIK, the problem is only with this list. I'm subscribed to
>> several other lists and I don't see any delays there. I have several
>> other accounts (gmail, hotmail, work, etc) and there is never any
>> substantial delay sending from or to those accounts but they all go
>> through my ISP's mailrelay server.
>>
>> GLST is disabled now and I have XMAIL configured to use a maximum of
>> 16 SMTP threads. That should be enough and the server and connection
>> should be able to handle the mail traffic hands down. So what could be
>> the problem....?
>>
>> --=20
>> Henri.
>>
>>     
>
> First, for incoming mail to You from the list, I think Davide can =
> confirm if
> xmailserver.org mail server have some waiting mail from the list for =
> you and
> what is the cause for this 'hold' if any.
>
> Second, doing an mx lookup for you domain "vriel.nl" the response is :
> vriel.nl        MX preference =3D 15, mail exchanger =3D
> mailrelay.direct-adsl.nl
> vriel.nl        MX preference =3D 10, mail exchanger =3D mail.vriel.nl
>
> mailrelay.direct-adsl.nl        internet address =3D 195.121.6.56
> mailrelay.direct-adsl.nl        internet address =3D 195.121.6.12
> mail.vriel.nl   internet address =3D 86.94.130.115
>
> Trying some manual connexions to 195.121.6.12 I see a changed host name =
> in
> the response like psmtp10.wxs.nl, psmtp15.wxs.nl, psmtp14.wxs.nl, ... =
> same
> thing at 195.121.6.56 AND some host names are on the two ips (if not =
> all
> ....).
>
> So you ISP first use 'load-balancing' by IP on MX host name (not a =
> problem),
> then use some physical 'load-balancing' on logical IP.
>
> And you said that your first prefered mx don't ear on port 25 (to =
> implement
> 'Nolisting' technic ?)
>   
This is probably because his ISP is blocking incomming SMTP traffic (I'm 
using the same ISP...),
Using your unavailable MX as primary, and the mail relay of the ISP is a 
technique to get the mail to your server inside the ISPs network.
> Can this 'cascade' of technics could cause sender xmail to enter in a =
> sort
> of loop on retries in some circonstence ?
>   
> First think to do is to return to a basic setup, at least 'reactivate' =
> your
> primary mx on port 25 to see if delays go away went your server =
> directly
> receive the mail. This will point out if the isp setup is generated =
> some
> trouble on failed primary mx connexions (volontary or not) related to
> xmail/glst sender setup.
>   
I think he can't listen on port 25 on that IP.. :(
For Henri: you may want to try www.rollernet.us , they can forward 
incomming mail on their MXes to your own mailserver on another port to 
bypass the ISP block, for free ofcourse :)
Ivo


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