-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sascha Hlusiak wrote: >>> Your argument would make sense if X didn't go to painful lengths to >>> maintain an abstract input driver API/ABI that allowed for arbitrary >>> drivers. >> confused. I was saying that the evdev wasn't as good an example of how to >> write a driver than the joystick was. > > The joystick driver itself maintains an abstract input layer which IMO > belongs > into the server, not the driver. What's left then is nothing more than the > evdev driver. I really don't see where the joystick driver is superior in > driver design other that it provides backends for 3 interfaces. > >> I was, in my mind, really >> concentrating on the keysym business, which is not compilable outside of >> Linux. > keysyms are totally X11 and application side and very much cross-platform.
You say evdev's keysym code is totally X11? Well, evdev.c's keysym code brings in linux's input.h, which isn't cross-platform, isn't purely X11. That's one big reason that I couldn't figure out what evdev.c was doing. I don't say it isn't nice code, only that I couldn't learn keysyms from it, because it used too many defines I couldn't figure out, stuff that wasn't X11 only. I /could/ do that with joystick. That's true, isn't it? My point was, that if evdev was that good an example, then it should have limited itself to code that was portable. Joystick did, although it did resort to using 3 different code files to do it, still, it did. I'm amused that I like joystick better than you do, and /you're/ the author. Well, we each are allowed our opinions, and you're well-spoken enough. > >> Where did you see the opposite? Maybe, the fact that we're talking about >> Linux events versus Xorg events versus the non-existence of FreeBSD >> user-mode events is what confused things? > I think you confuse something here. We never talked about Xorg events here. > > And something similar to the Linux events (as in evdev) do exist in FreeBSD, > it's just no 1:1 mapping. And even if they didn't; what's your point? That > the evdev driver should not exist then, just because other platforms don't > provide such an interface? You've said that before, I don't really want to disagree, but could you point to the actual interface you're talking about? I might be wrong, it doesn't seem all that event-ish to me, and I'd like to see what you mean. I mean, FreeBSD doesn't call out of the kernel, you have to call into it and query (from a user-mode viewpoint). Or, were you talking about their internal interface, stuff that you'd see in a FreeBSD kernel driver? That, I'd agree with, certainly. Give me something I can look at, ok? (stuff like this last paragraph, that's why I'd wanted this to be a private email. We shouldn't discuss FreeBSD in a Xorg list, I'd be embarrassed if someone complained about that, they'd be right). > > > - Sascha -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjWgrcACgkQz62J6PPcoOkugwCcDy5LeCaIYfmbCzPRoFc16xSp zYkAn3QJD/9X+2DwwzUOHk2IG9x2dwnE =DOmN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg