On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, J. Imlay wrote:

> I think it would be very interesting if there was a public archive of
> these "private lists. It would give people on the outside a better
> understanding of what is actually being talked about and actively worked
> on. Also it would make a lot of us much less ignorant. (and that's a good
> thing for everyone)

On checking, it appears that, apart from the lists for submitted patches, 
all the private lists are defunct except for one, the devel list.

> Or are there actual resons why outsiders can't read these lists?
> (copyright stuff and what not?)

Officially, that is the only reason why the devel list still exists,
but devel does still have a lot of traffic that could perfectly well
be made public.

I have to admit that I feel different about the xpert and devel 
lists. Xpert has a lot more traffic, and lots of traffic that, while 
it needs an export to answer it, doesn't really interest an expert.
Devel has thus become a list that I read in a different from a of mind
from xpert.
I'm partly to blame for this "dumbing down"; since I don't read newbie
anyone with a problem that needs my help has to ask on xpert :-(

It may just have been teething or technical problems with the experiment
in moderating xpert to block spam, but I got the impression that the 
traffic was more than we could comfortably moderate.
Otherwise I'd suggest splitting devel into a closed list for things that 
had to kept confidential, and a moderated, archived public list.

-- 
Dr. Andrew C. Aitchison         Computer Officer, DPMMS, Cambridge
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