hi Guillermo,
Thank you for your help! in your previous mail you said “to increase the atomic 
radii (see the 'repel' argument in initRepel)”. But in the script 

“from repelPotTools import create_RepelPot,initRepel
repel = create_RepelPot('repel')
potList.append(repel)
rampedParams.append( StaticRamp("initRepel(repel,use14=False)") )
rampedParams.append( MultRamp(.004, 4, "repel.setScale( VALUE)") )
# nonbonded interaction only between C1' atoms
highTempParams.append( StaticRamp("""initRepel(repel,
                                               use14=True,
                                               scale=0.004,
                                               repel=1.2,
                                               moveTol=45,
                                               interactingAtoms="name P"
                                               )""") )

“
I can not find the terms that stands for “atom radius” and how to “increase the 
atomic radii(in intRepel)”. 
ps: Only RepelPot has the similar term “rMin”; but when I have looked through 
the examples in eginput, I did not find the similar use of “RepPot”.
Thank you !
Best,
Yikan
Ph. D candidate
TsingHua University
School of life Sciences 
Beijing, China
tel:010-62773783



> 在 2017年12月12日,下午11:38,Bermejo, Guillermo (NIH/CIT) [E] 
> <[email protected]> 写道:
> 
> Hi Yikan,
> 
> I think using Monte Carlo (in the torsion angle randomization) is 
> appropriate. 
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Guillermo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: ZhangYikan <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 6:36 PM
> To: Bermejo, Guillermo (NIH/CIT) [E]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Xplor-nih] Wrong topology structures in conformational sampling
>  
> hell Guillermo,
> By the way, although I have known that the comformational sampling problem 
> has been an untrival problem util now; how can I make sure that I have 
> sampled almost all possible conformations of this RNA?
> 
> Yikan
> Ph. D candidate
> TsingHua University
> School of life Sciences 
> Beijing, China
> tel:010-62773783
> 
> 
> 
> > 在 2017年12月12日,上午7:25,ZhangYikan <[email protected]> 写道:
> > 
> > hello Guillermo,
> > Thank you for your scripts, I have tried it. I found that there are still 
> > some wrong topology structures and clahes(some overlaps):1) I will try to 
> > fix the repel parameter and rerun the script;
> > 2) in the outputs of the previous zp_0-3.py, I found the terms of “impr” 
> > seems unusual(in the .viols), did you have some tools to analysis this 
> > energy term ?
> > 
> > Thank you!
> > Best,
> > 
> > Yikan
> > Ph. D candidate
> > TsingHua University
> > School of life Sciences 
> > Beijing, China
> > tel:010-62773783
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> 在 2017年12月12日,上午2:00,Bermejo, Guillermo (NIH/CIT) [E] 
> >> <[email protected]> 写道:
> >> 
> >> Hi Yikan,
> >> 
> >> I notice that your script seems to be more complicated than it has to be.  
> >> I'm not sure this will solve your problem, but I'm attaching a simpler 
> >> script based on eginput/rna/fold.py.   It's basically the script used to 
> >> fold an RNA molecule from an extended conformation (described in the paper 
> >> I mentioned before).  I modified it so that you load your input pdb 
> >> structure and define the different rigid bodies (look for the lines with 
> >> an inline comment "# COMPLETE !", where you must enter the right 
> >> information).  Then, it does torsion angle dynamics using the remaining 
> >> torsional degrees of freedom (i.e., at the linker(s)).
> >> 
> >> I commented all the experimental restraints.  If you want to have the 
> >> radius of gyration term (which appears in your script), you can introduce 
> >> it yourself.  Also, you might want to use it as a starting point for more 
> >> complicated stuff, like "breaking" the linkers and randomizing the 
> >> position of the domains.
> >> 
> >> A suggestion to try to avoid (and detect) knotted structures is to 
> >> increase the atomic radii (see the 'repel' argument in initRepel).  
> >> 
> >> Best,
> >> 
> >> Guillermo
> >> 
> >> From: ZhangYikan <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 10:43 AM
> >> To: Bermejo, Guillermo (NIH/CIT) [E]; [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [Xplor-nih] Wrong topology structures in conformational 
> >> sampling
> >>  
> >> hello Guillermo,
> >> 
> >> I want these domains move (as rigid body)randomly and freely to sample all 
> >> possible conformations of the RNA.
> >>        
> >> Yikan
> >> Ph. D candidate
> >> TsingHua University
> >> School of life Sciences 
> >> Beijing, China
> >> tel:010-62773783
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> 在 2017年12月11日,下午11:27,Bermejo, Guillermo (NIH/CIT) [E] 
> >>> <[email protected]> 写道:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Yikan,
> >>> 
> >>> Can you tell me what you are trying to do?
> >>> 
> >>> Best,
> >>> 
> >>> Guillermo
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> From: ZhangYikan <[email protected]>
> >>> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 6:56 PM
> >>> To: Bermejo, Guillermo (NIH/CIT) [E]; [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: [Xplor-nih] Wrong topology structures in conformational 
> >>> sampling
> >>>  
> >>> hi Guillermo,
> >>> yes, i have received your last mails. And the attachment is my scripts.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Yikan
> >>> Ph. D candidate
> >>> TsingHua University
> >>> School of life Sciences 
> >>> Beijing, China
> >>> tel:010-62773783
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 在 2017年12月9日,上午12:43,Bermejo, Guillermo (NIH/CIT) [E] 
> >>>> <[email protected]> 写道:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi Yikan,
> >>>> 
> >>>> I realized that my original response was only sent to you and not 
> >>>> included in the mailing list.   Here it is.
> >>>> 
> >>>> One possibility is that there's something wrong with your script(s).
> >>>> 
> >>>> I recommend basing your calculations on the scripts found in eginput/rna 
> >>>> directory (within your Xplor-NIH directory).  There you'll find:
> >>>> 
> >>>> * fold.py, for initial calculations starting from an extended 
> >>>> conformation.
> >>>> * refine.py, for subsequent refinement.
> >>>> 
> >>>> In addition, you'll find all the restraints for an example system, in 
> >>>> case you want to play with the scripts before venturing into your data.  
> >>>> The scripts are highly commented, which should help in customizing them 
> >>>> for your needs.  There's also a paper describing them [Bermejo et al., 
> >>>> 2016, Structure 24, 806-815].
> >>>> 
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Guillermo
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>  
> >>>> From: [email protected] 
> >>>> <[email protected]> on behalf of ZhangYikan 
> >>>> <[email protected]>
> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 6:53 AM
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: [Xplor-nih] Wrong topology structures in conformational sampling
> >>>>  
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> hello all,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Recently, I am doing conformational sampling with Xplor-NIH. And I got 
> >>>> many pdbs, but when I check them I found that some pdbs have wrong 
> >>>> topology structures like the attachments(in the pink cycle ): The RNA 
> >>>> linker did not run with the right way and It went through the helix. I 
> >>>> have tried to pick the structures by the “total energy” or “repel” 
> >>>> terms, but it make no sense. Are there someone know how to kick out 
> >>>> these wrong structures or to void these errors in the sampling process? 
> >>>> Thank you!
> >>>> Yikan
> >>>> Ph. D candidate
> >>>> TsingHua University
> >>>> School of life Sciences 
> >>>> Beijing, China
> >>>> tel:010-62773783
> >> 
> >> <fold.py>
> > 
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