On 11/14/2013 10:36 AM, santhu kumar wrote:
> Hi Gabriel and Chales,
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> @Gabriel : The percent deviation seems like a good indicator for most 
> of the RDC values except those very small RDC values. I am not sure if 
> thats the right metric over-all. In almost all the RDC's I am using, 
> there seems to be 1-2 RDC's of this small magnitude.
>
it depends on the molecule and alignment tensor, some proteins have 
dozens very small RDCs (e.g. if a helix is oriented at magic angle 
relative to the longest alignment tesnor axis)

> @Charles : Can you please elaborate a bit more about semi-quantitative 
> errors, |err| .. Is that the experimental observation errors ? or the 
> RMS between Experimental and calculated RDC's.
[err] must be experimental errors, they are generally inversely 
proportional to the S/N
>
> And also I have questions about modelling errors in RDC's. In the work 
> you have did, you used 0.26 HZ as the standard deviation for NH for 
> synthetic data, but when you have experimental data of magnitude 0.03 
> [less than the standard deviation used in error modelling], is this 
> approach still valid?
>
> Thanks
> santhosh
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Charles Schwieters 
> <charles at schwieters.org <mailto:charles at schwieters.org>> wrote:
>
>
>     Hello Santhosh--
>
>     >
>     > To find how good a refinement is, R-factors or Q-factor is used
>     as a general
>     > broad indicator.
>     >
>     > R-factor defined as : sqrt{Sum[(Exp-obs)^2])/Sum[Exp^2]/2}
>     >
>     > This R-factor is a good indicator of the over-all data fit but
>     is there any such
>     > indicator for residue wise improvement. I tried residue wise
>     R-factor as :
>     >
>     > Residue R-factor : |Exp - Obs| / |Exp|
>     > [basically percent deviation].
>     >
>
>     Gabriel is correct that R-factor does take into account the magnitude
>     of RDCs, but for a per-residue metric, if you have semi-quantitative
>     errors, how about this residual:
>
>        |Exp - Calcd| / |err|
>
>     ??
>
>     Charles
>
>
>
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