Kurt,

I'm not sure I understand correctly. Is it that, when clicking on the Profiler button, you have to wait a very long time especially on Chrome with which once you got an alert about a Javascript execution overload??

Thanks!

-Alain

Le 13/12/2011 17:30, Kurt Cagle a écrit :
Alain,

I too like the profiler, though I'm a bit distressed with the overall download time for the package - on Firefox it's long but acceptable, but on Chrome it seems to take forever to load (it times out at least once).

Kurt Cagle
Invited Expert, XForms Working Group, W3C
Managing Editor, XMLToday.org
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On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Alain Couthures <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Wow! What an impressive Christmas gift for XML fans!

    You're absolutely right about the Profiler I added to XSLTForms:
    it's a
    wonderful tool to locate time-costing XPath expressions and refreshes.

    In the latest builds, the Profiler is even a form: this means that it
    can be customized by authors themselves. The profiling data is
    collected
    as an XML document and a specific processing-instruction tells
    XSLTForms
    which form to associate with.

    I plan to add more information in the Profiler instance (instances
    copies, the calling form source, ...): the Profiler will progressively
    become a real XForms Debugger written in XForms.

    About your form performance, I already suspected that counting
    preceding
    siblings would cost a lot of time: Javascript doesn't like loops
    (XSLTForms has to have its own XPath machine written in
    Javascript... I
    proposed a paper for XML Prague 2012 about how to write an XQuery
    compiler into Javascript instructions). I recently added support
    for the
    id() function and it's even much better for performance.

    Defining a subform is now another possibility to simplify a form. This
    is not yet documented but I already love it much. Don't hesitate
    to ask
    me about subforms if you're interested in.

    If you want to load another form in a new browser tab from an instance
    without server exchanges, defining an extra parameter for the load
    action should be simple with the processing-instruction capability I
    already use for the Profiler (this processing-instruction mechanism is
    very promising indeed, I'm currently building a small XRAP
    (XForms-REST-Apache-PHP) application with minimal generic PHP scripts,
    XML files and folders on server).

    XML allows us to consider programs as data. We might not be
    numerous to
    envision this (but the community is strong) and I have to confess that
    I'm still marveled by this.

    Thank you very much for your feedbacks!

    -Alain

    Le 09/12/2011 02:41, C. M. Sperberg-McQueen a écrit :
    > Just a short report, for the record, of my experience with the
    profiler
    > now built into XSLTForms.
    >
    > Short version:  the profiler is very helpful; in this case three
    relatively
    > simple changes produced a five-fold speedup in the form.
    >
    > Long version:
    >
    > Looking at the profile information for the form I was worrying
    about,
    > which had gotten too slow when the document it was operating on got
    > bigger, I found that the most expensive XPath expressions were those
    > used for numbering the cells of the stack and for numbering the
    > instructions in the code area.  I hard-coded appropriate numbers
    into
    > attributes in the machine description, and I added a set of
    actions for
    > adding a numbering attribute to the instructions in a program, after
    > loading it. I then replaced each XPath expression of the form
    > count(preceding-sibling::cell) +1 or count(preceding-sibling::i)
    with
    > a reference to @n.  I also removed the support for editing the
    program
    > code; I'll move it to a separate form which communicates with the
    > main form by bouncing the XML representation of the document off
    > of a routine on the server.
    >
    > The first two changes (prenumbering the stack cells and
    autonumbering
    > the instructions in the program) reduced the XForms Cumulative
    Refresh
    > Time after loading a program and stepping through 50 cycles of
    machine
    > time (i.e. clicking Step 50 times) from 94.6 seconds to 42.3
    seconds,
    > making the program about twice as fast.
    >
    > The third change (removing the editing functionality to a
    separate form)
    > took it down to 17.7 seconds, another twofold speedup, for a
    five-fold
    > speedup overall.
    >
    > Those who are curious can compare the timings and the subjective
    > experience of the form by looking at the old and new versions of the
    > form at
    >
    > http://blackmesatech.com/2011/12/pl0/v01.xhtml (old)
    > http://blackmesatech.com/2011/12/pl0/index.xhtml (new)
    >
    > (Hmm.  I notice that the XSLTforms I'm using on that server is
    > an old version that doesn't yet have the profiler.  I'll have to
    update soon.)
    >


    
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